fieldsportsman 107 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 hi, what would happen if a dog caught a rat which had eaten poison. Would the dog die?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Unless he took a good bit of the blood from the rat not much, warfarin, thins the blood to kill the rats, and could happen to your dog, most rat poisions work this way.... admin an injection of vit k1 if you think your in doubt. you should notice the dog of his/her food.... maybe swelling of the belly, ATB. Snap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
judge2010 196 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 in oz farm dogs are given a tiny bit of rat poison to kill off worms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 just some reading on the subject.......... Indirect Exposure to Rat Poison Secondary or indirect exposure to rat poison occurs when a dog eats a rodent that's fallen fatally ill as a result of the warfarin or similar anticoagulant toxin. "When a rat eats poison bait, he will not die immediately. The rodent will wander away and he'll become fatally ill a day or two later. The dying rat will be easy prey for a predator like a dog or a cat, and when the pet ingests the rodent, he also ingests the toxin," explained Dr. Michael Levine, DVM. Unfortunately, an uneducated dog owner may erroneously rule out rat poison as the potential cause of a pet's serious and sudden illness because there's no rat poison bait in the household. So when considering whether a dog has been exposed to rat poison, the dog owner must consider whether the dog may have encountered a poisoned rodent. Treating a Dog Who Eats Rat Poison Unfortunately, a large percentage of dogs who eat rat poison will die. This is due to the way in which the rat poison works from within, creating no outward symptoms (like bleeding) until the dog is in critical condition due to the toxin in the rat poison. The prognosis for a dog who has eaten rat poison depends on the amount of rat poison that's been ingested, along with the amount of time that's elapsed since the bait was eaten. Since the body has a supply of proteins that assist with the blood's clotting ability, the symptoms of warfarin (or another anticoagulant) poisoning may not become evident until 36-48 hours after the dog has ingested the toxin. This makes diagnosis even more difficult since the poisoning incident and the symptoms may not be immediately associated, and delayed diagnosis means a worse prognosis for the poisoned dog. The most effective treatment for a dog who has eaten rat poison involves giving large doses of vitamin K, which helps restore the blood's ability to clot. Other supportive measures, like IV fluids and blood transfusions are also commonly administered to dogs who are suffering from warfarin toxicity. Preventing a Dog's Exposure to Rat Poison The most effective way to prevent a case of accidental poisoning in a dog involves using humane rodent traps in place of deadly rat poison and bait. "A Havahart Trap is a humane cage-style trap that can be used to catch rats and other animals. You can then release the animals in a more desirable location, without killing the animal and without putting your pet at risk of accidentally ingesting rat poison," Dr. Levine explained. Supervising the dog when he is outside is another way to prevent poisoning a dog as a result of indirect exposure to rat poison. Dogs should always be supervised when outdoors to prevent potentially fatal encounters with a dying and poisoned rodent. Supervising a pet while he or she is outdoors will also prevent other unfortunate occurrences, like dog theft or an attack on the dog by a wild animal. Pet owners who suspect their dog may have eaten rat poison or another toxin should immediately visit the veterinarian's office. If possible, dog owners should also bring along the packaging for the poison that the dog ingested, as this will help the veterinarian to find the best and most effective treatment for the poisoned dog, thereby increasing his chances for a good outcome. Visit the Pet Poisoning Page for more information on the ASPCA Poison Control Hotline and learn what plants are toxic to dogs and cats, along with other vital information relating to pet poisoning and toxicity, like how to induce vomiting in a pet and how to tell if a dog or cat is sick. Read more at Suite101: How to Tell if a Dog Has Eaten Rat Poison: Rat Poisoning Symptoms in Dogs, Signs of Warfarin Toxicity http://petcare.suite...n#ixzz0lrq5BaYU hope that helps you out a little... Snap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kill um with crisps 7 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 There is a lethal dose required in order to kill any creature. It depends on the weight of the particular creature so in rats it doesnt take much but in dogs it will take a hell of a lot! Also consider that a rats stomach can only contain a small percentage of what a dog would need to consume therefore a dog will have to eat a lot of rats in order to inadvetantly consume a lethal dose of rodenticide. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kill um with crisps 7 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 And as snapshot says the antidote is vitamin K1 (not vitamin k). Vitamin k will do f all to save your dog but vitamin k1 will save your dog no problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
budgie123 163 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 A mamal that wieghts 5kg in body wieght would have to eat 2 kg of rodenticide to kill it.A full grown rat eats roughly 70gramms a day so would only cotain roughly 70grms of rodenticide so to kill it it would have to eat roughly 28 rats.Most anticoagulant rodenticides are multiple feed poisons over a seven day period.You would be very unlucky to have a problem.Better to be safe than sorry see your vet and get the antidote. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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