.17 hmr

[cassshantia 16]

hi all just had my 1st 2 outings with my .17 which went well but need to improve,

the situation is having set my scope to 35 yrd ish,the first few shots i had were to say the least very poor then all of a sudden the rifle was cock on again and taking shots out in excess of yrds ,having shot a load of quarry i passed it over to 2 mates and again the rifle cock on the 2 lads had to kills well over 100 yrds ,

this i thought was hell of a thing as ive only seen bigger calibre taking out such tasks

the 2nd outing which was quite similiar,ie missed a couple then cock on for most of the night ,had a rest on the quad the 2nd night so a wasnt moving @all but then the last field i could not hit a bloody thing ,never banged my scopes at all i was getting mad by this time but the last shot of the night came my shot of the 2 nights out well over 100 yrds

do you have any pointers please why im hit and miss or the rifles hit and miss

over 33 hares and 3 rabbits in 2 nights (2 rifles )

any help most appreciated

ps i clean my rifle after every use ?with copper solvent and snake

Edited March 15, 2010 by cassshantia

[waidmann 105]

firstly i would not be shooting hare at this time of year bud(they have young and are pregnant).

 

35 yard zero is bang on at 100 yards.if the rifle is shooting ok then you should be hitting the spot.

try it on a target again for a few more shots and see if the poi changes between groups,check the mod etc.

[mike white 1]

firstly i would not be shooting hare at this time of year bud(they have young and are pregnant).

 

35 yard zero is bang on at 100 yards.if the rifle is shooting ok then you should be hitting the spot.

try it on a target again for a few more shots and see if the poi changes between groups,check the mod etc.

 

35 yard zero is bang on at 120 yards , 50 yards zero bang on at 100 yards , you might be cleaning it to much i found with my hmr that the more i shot the better the accuracy got , because your cleaning after every outing its probabley taking a few shots to get back on again , i wouldnt clean it myself untill its shot 500 rounds or so or when it starts losing accuracy again.

Edited March 15, 2010 by mike white

[jamie g 17]

dont clean the copper out of it after every outting if i where you. just rod it out clean if you have to. see how you get on then. sometimes you get the odd flyier. it is factory ammo after all

[some bloke 60]

As indicated above there's no benefit in thorough cleaning after every outing, I dry patch it sometimes just to remove the carbon dusting - but you have not suggested you clean every time so lets look at other reasons too.

 

First on the list is a loose scope. I never knock mine yet last week the mounts loosened during a shooting trip. I started shooting high, adjusted and kept shooting ever higher. As I was driving along - rifle in the door~mirror cavity I heard a rattle and it had slid forwards on the rail with all four mounting screws loose. I'll never know how or why but I'd have thought I would have noticed it when adjusting for the elevation errors.

 

After that I'd be checking for a fault in the scope or a contact between the barrel and forestock - or striking of a loose or damaged sound moderator. I'm sure there are more things to check but I'd leave any suspicions about the bullets till last as they are generally very reliable.

Edited March 15, 2010 by some bloke

[cassshantia 16]

the 2nd outing which was quite similiar,ie missed a couple then cock on for most of the night ,had a rest on the quad the 2nd night so a wasnt moving @all but then the last field i could not hit a bloody thing ,never banged my scopes at all i was getting mad by this time but the last shot of the night came my shot of the 2 nights out well over 100 yrds

do you have any pointers please why im hit and miss or the rifles hit and miss

over 33 hares and 3 rabbits in 2 nights (2 rifles )

any help most appreciated

ps i clean my rifle after every use ?with copper solvent and snake

i indicated that i clean on my previous write up thanks for the answers lads

also on my other thread my 1st outing with fac LANGOUROUS a member on here suggested why i zerod my .17 in @35 yrds,me been new to this game asked the question like many many more and you lot said 35 yrds so i have, what is his problem or have i zerod it @this distance by mistake

[Blacksheep 6]

the 2nd outing which was quite similiar,ie missed a couple then cock on for most of the night ,had a rest on the quad the 2nd night so a wasnt moving @all but then the last field i could not hit a bloody thing ,never banged my scopes at all i was getting mad by this time but the last shot of the night came my shot of the 2 nights out well over 100 yrds

do you have any pointers please why im hit and miss or the rifles hit and miss

over 33 hares and 3 rabbits in 2 nights (2 rifles )

any help most appreciated

ps i clean my rifle after every use ?with copper solvent and snake

i indicated that i clean on my previous write up thanks for the answers lads

also on my other thread my 1st outing with fac LANGOUROUS a member on here suggested why i zerod my .17 in @35 yrds,me been new to this game asked the question like many many more and you lot said 35 yrds so i have, what is his problem or have i zerod it @this distance by mistake

 

It sounds to me like you may have zeroed your rifle at too short a range if your cross hairs are smack on at 35 yards the bullet will still be on its way up for some distance and unless you compensate your aim point you will probably miss high at the longer shots

[Treacle Trackpad 6]

...i clean my rifle after every use ?with copper solvent and snake...

 

Stop doing this.

 

...i zerod my .17 in @35 yrds...

 

No problems here. 35 yds is fine for .17HMR zero. Point and click out to 120yds.

[cassshantia 16]

thanks for the comments lads, a few are different in zeroing the .17 hmr so must be a personal preference

[waidmann 105]

firstly i would not be shooting hare at this time of year bud(they have young and are pregnant).

 

35 yard zero is bang on at 100 yards.if the rifle is shooting ok then you should be hitting the spot.

try it on a target again for a few more shots and see if the poi changes between groups,check the mod etc.

 

35 yard zero is bang on at 120 yards , 50 yards zero bang on at 100 yards , you might be cleaning it to much i found with my hmr that the more i shot the better the accuracy got , because your cleaning after every outing its probabley taking a few shots to get back on again , i wouldnt clean it myself untill its shot 500 rounds or so or when it starts losing accuracy again.

 

 

i stand corrected

[Deker 3,491]

firstly i would not be shooting hare at this time of year bud(they have young and are pregnant).

 

35 yard zero is bang on at 100 yards.if the rifle is shooting ok then you should be hitting the spot.

try it on a target again for a few more shots and see if the poi changes between groups,check the mod etc.

 

35 yard zero is bang on at 120 yards , 50 yards zero bang on at 100 yards , you might be cleaning it to much i found with my hmr that the more i shot the better the accuracy got , because your cleaning after every outing its probabley taking a few shots to get back on again , i wouldnt clean it myself untill its shot 500 rounds or so or when it starts losing accuracy again.

 

 

i stand corrected

 

 

I recon that is close with 17g ammo, but what is this all about???

 

If he is shooting wildlife at 100 yards plus, then stuff all this zeroing at 35 yards and "hoping"...simply zero at 100-120 yards.

 

THEN, bring it back to 35 if you must, put some in the target and mark it so you can accuratey re zero at 35 yards for a 100 yard zero when required!!

[cassshantia 16]

thanks for your comments on the .17 cleaning etc ,this is a very dirty round as you all know so how come on other posts regarding the 243 s 222 s etc the clean them after every outing can some one please explain the difference and how often do we strip down our sound mods on both .17 and 243 s

i stripped my .17 mod down the other day after 2 nights lamping and it was a bloody disgrace so shed a light on me please

sorry for all these qustions