Geoff.C 0 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Had this conversation with my girlfriend a few weeks ago,but as i said to her at the time, 'its only my theory, its not like i have done any reaearch on the subject'. Then the other night she text me and said something along the lines of 'oh my god your theory is on the news!!!!! ' Its all bollox, same as this recycling mularky. All recycling is doing is providing some businessman with free materials that he can re-use and make money out of. The world is in a recession,how do we get out of it? Well why dont we tax the working types to an even higher level. How do we do that? We make them pay even more for something that they already have or use,but we tell them that if we dont charge them even more for it then they will be contributing to the demise of the world,but, that if they do pay more for it then they will be contributing to saving the world. Oh and just so that they dont dig too deep and start thinking about what we are saying about one topic,we can distract them with another topic. So lets mention that bankers are receiving billions in bonuses and that this government is going to stop all of that because the bankers are very naughty people. Its all a game people. Good cop,bad cop. Wise words come down from the top of donk's mountain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RicW 67 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) http://www.copenhagenclimatechallenge.org/ Ho Hum. Here we go again. As we reach the end of the warmest decade since 1850 all the idjits crawl out the woodwork. What even you dipshits should be able to understand is that GLOBAL WARMING IS A FACT. The extent to which it is anthropogenic is still open to debate,but it is real. The Arctic icecap has lost more area in the last 10 years than in the previous 200. The Antarctic icecap, which is the one that matters because it is land borne, is melting so fast that instrumentation can't keep up. Anyway. Let's consider "Conspiracy Theories". There are a few groups of people who have published data that contradict global warming. They claim to be "independent thinkers". The problem is that if you take the trouble to investigate their funding it turns out that their "independent research foundation" is funded by ? Guess who? Exxonn. Shell. Texaco. There is indeed a conspiracy about global warming. The people behind the conspiracy are the companies who stand to benefit from continued use of fossil fuels. The fact that the entire human race will suffer does not matter because the bosses of the companies won't live long enough to see the consequences. Keep up the good work Swampy. You are on the side of the capitalist comptrollers of society. Rest assured, you will get your just desserts. You won't live long to enjoy them but make the most of it while you have the chance. Ric Edited December 9, 2009 by RicW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SCOTTY1 3 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I KNOW WHAT I THINK AND THAT IS WE DONT GET THE 15 FOOT SNOW DRIFTS WE DID WHEN I WAS A KID AND WE DO SEE TREES BUDDING IN JANUARY SO SOMETHING IS GOING ON WILL WE EVER KNOW THE TRUTH PROBABLY NOT! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Climate warming scientists are only using 10-20 years of data. How can that be used to judge something that has a minimum 10,000 year cycles? Temperature has not risen significantly and even if the earth is warming up you would only measure significant change over hundreds or thousands of years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 http://www.copenhagenclimatechallenge.org/ Ho Hum. Here we go again. As we reach the end of the warmest decade since 1850 all the idjits crawl out the woodwork. What even you dipshits should be able to understand is that GLOBAL WARMING IS A FACT. The extent to which it is anthropogenic is still open to debate,but it is real. The Arctic icecap has lost more area in the last 10 years than in the previous 200. The Antarctic icecap, which is the one that matters because it is land borne, is melting so fast that instrumentation can't keep up. Anyway. Let's consider "Conspiracy Theories". There are a few groups of people who have published data that contradict global warming. They claim to be "independent thinkers". The problem is that if you take the trouble to investigate their funding it turns out that their "independent research foundation" is funded by ? Guess who? Exxonn. Shell. Texaco. Whoa there big fella! Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that we should be burning oil like there is no tomorrow. I'm saying that the various fluctuations that have been proportedd by the "green police are flawed. As for recycling; FFS if they stopped building cars that have a life expectancy of 10yrs and stopped making TV and computers that ae out of date the day after you've bought it. It would help. We have become a greedy society who yearn for the latest gadget whether we need it or not What happened to the TV repair shops, independant garages, washing machine and fridge repair men? Buy a drill and the battery dies.....its cheaper to buy a new drill than a battery! We are as a society consuming more than we put back..............However; global warming is a fluctuation of the globe as it orbits the sun ( by the way we are moving closer to the sun and the sun is dying....might have somne thing to do with it). The seasons are shifting, we are as a world over populated and need a serious culling to get back to managable levels.....and I've had far too much cider for sensible debate as you well know! rgds Swampy ninging with the thermostat off! There is indeed a conspiracy about global warming. The people behind the conspiracy are the companies who stand to benefit from continued use of fossil fuels. The fact that the entire human race will suffer does not matter because the bosses of the companies won't live long enough to see the consequences. Keep up the good work Swampy. You are on the side of the capitalist comptrollers of society. Rest assured, you will get your just desserts. You won't live long to enjoy them but make the most of it while you have the chance. Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 http://www.copenhagenclimatechallenge.org/ Ho Hum. Here we go again. As we reach the end of the warmest decade since 1850 all the idjits crawl out the woodwork. What even you dipshits should be able to understand is that GLOBAL WARMING IS A FACT. The extent to which it is anthropogenic is still open to debate,but it is real. The Arctic icecap has lost more area in the last 10 years than in the previous 200. The Antarctic icecap, which is the one that matters because it is land borne, is melting so fast that instrumentation can't keep up. Anyway. Let's consider "Conspiracy Theories". There are a few groups of people who have published data that contradict global warming. They claim to be "independent thinkers". The problem is that if you take the trouble to investigate their funding it turns out that their "independent research foundation" is funded by ? Guess who? Exxonn. Shell. Texaco. Whoa there big fella! Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that we should be burning oil like there is no tomorrow. I'm saying that the various fluctuations that have been proportedd by the "green police are flawed. As for recycling; FFS if they stopped building cars that have a life expectancy of 10yrs and stopped making TV and computers that ae out of date the day after you've bought it. It would help. We have become a greedy society who yearn for the latest gadget whether we need it or not What happened to the TV repair shops, independant garages, washing machine and fridge repair men? Buy a drill and the battery dies.....its cheaper to buy a new drill than a battery! We are as a society consuming more than we put back..............However; global warming is a fluctuation of the globe as it orbits the sun ( by the way we are moving closer to the sun and the sun is dying....might have somne thing to do with it). The seasons are shifting, we are as a world over populated and need a serious culling to get back to managable levels.....and I've had far too much cider for sensible debate as you well know! rgds Swampy ninging with the thermostat off! There is indeed a conspiracy about global warming. The people behind the conspiracy are the companies who stand to benefit from continued use of fossil fuels. The fact that the entire human race will suffer does not matter because the bosses of the companies won't live long enough to see the consequences. Keep up the good work Swampy. You are on the side of the capitalist comptrollers of society. Rest assured, you will get your just desserts. You won't live long to enjoy them but make the most of it while you have the chance. Ric Just read what I said ther . Jeez I spout some sh*te after cider. The point I was trying to make was; NO not all anti global warming theory research is funded by the oil giants. Although the argument that the global warming is a human fault IS funded by Gov'ts I would rather trust an independant rather than a gov't than by its existence is out to fek you! rgds Swampy This ning really needs some strong coffee now! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 The oil giants research in to sea level change was nothing to do with climate change it was to try to understand possible traps for hydrocarbons. This research was years ago before this new religeon of climate change existed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Keswick 119 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I would rather trust an independant rather than a gov't than by its existence is out to fek you! Even if that research is funded by a company that stands to benifit financially if the outcome proves to be in thier favour? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I would rather trust an independant rather than a gov't than by its existence is out to fek you! Even if that research is funded by a company that stands to benifit financially if the outcome proves to be in thier favour? Independant.........not funded by any organisation! Swampy simples ning Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Keswick 119 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Which independants do you refer too? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 its common sense chaps...what do you think will happen if we dont change anything at all for 100 years? Do you think the world will explode? The earth will survive no matter what it is our own conditions that will change. Its alarmism pure and simple....remember acid rain? chernoble? e-numbers in food? the media creates hysteria each time but nothing really happened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Which independants do you refer too? Did you actually go to the link at the beginning of this thread? Check any name on the list (google is your friend!) These people sre respected scientists who have nothing to gain but the continuation of their credibility. Rather than the sensationalist media attention seeking syncophants that do the bidding of gov't to feather their own funding (life) and satisfy their egos1 rgds Swampy yes please bar man another ning on the rocks and whatever the lady wants Quote Link to post Share on other sites
donk 12 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Dipshits???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
droid 11 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Independant.........not funded by any organisation! Swampy simples ning Research is expensive. It's got to be funded by someone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sorley x 32 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 For every action thare is a reaction. Cut down the rainforests and there will be a reaction Burn fossil fuels and there will be a reaction Those are the two fundamentals changes that have been ongoing and exponentially increasing over past few decades. Can't honestlyt believe that people can't expect there to be some payback from these. Sure there are smaller issues muddying the waters as both sides of the argument clamber for an outcome. Sure because there is the opportunity there will be those who want to profiteer. A little knowledge is about the most dangerous thing people have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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