lamping hares

[Guest joe ox]

wrong dog joe, thats TARA that picks her runs. not Visa.

 

and joe, not all dogs make the grade, im shure you have bred some that didn't

 

I remember reading something about visa stoping at fences I may be wrong? yes they dont all make the grade but I cull if there not up to the job. Why go to a lamping dog for pups if your dog is up to the job why not go back to something with the same lines?

Edited October 19, 2009 by joe ox

[border lad 1,047]

Hares in Ireland, are a shade smaller, what I would call WHISPY, lighter than the average, Hare, you get over the Scottish borders, and also they are very scarce almost like hens back teeth, but still good Hares, there is nothing to beat a good day time run on a, hare, we are only talking of a split second mainly on the turns, or bends, but that split second, is enough for the Hare to escape, the difference, between an average dog and a good dog,

i was fortunate, to witness, some of the finest coursing dogs, from mid 50s up to the BAN, and we had FREEDOM, to go about your job, now in daylight,

I am out for first light, a couple of quick runs, then off, at night, the Lamp is the silent killer, a dog with a good strike, and STAMINA, and you will come home with far more than you would in daylight, and also some good lamping dogs, might not be able to put a bend into a good daylight hare,

[Guest joe ox]

So it just so happens the two dogs who you say just couldnt hack it went to the same home as pups, were as the rest of the litter who went to other individual homes were more than capable Maybe they were just not good enough ? Maybe for whatever reason they were not done right who knows. Every dog cant be a world beater thats for sure but what i am sure of Joe is that daytime Hares are a harder test than nightime YES or NO IN YOUR OPINION.

 

Well those two dogs were getting ran alongside a dog not much older which I bred at the time and they couldnt live with it, they were packing in when the said dog was just getting warmed up Maybe the other pups from the litter went to homes where there work wasnt so demanding?

As for when hares are harder, in the winter after the first frost regardless of what time it is!!!

I enjoy or rather used to running anything the lamp falls on so yes I think lamping hares is fun, which is the answer to the question asked in the 1st post

Edited October 19, 2009 by joe ox

[TOMO 28,798]

wrong dog joe, thats TARA that picks her runs. not Visa.

 

and joe, not all dogs make the grade, im shure you have bred some that didn't

 

I remember reading something about visa stoping at fences I may be wrong? yes they dont all make the grade but I cull if there not up to the job. Why go to a lamping dog for pups if your dog is up to the job why not go back to something with the same lines?

 

wrong again joe, why you dragging me in this argument, i love to lamp, and like the day , and dont get involved with the silly day night thing and hares.

 

as for why i used jack, , simple answer mate, i wasn't after an out and out coursing dog . if i was i would have lined Visa to a coursing dog.

 

i lined jack because i belive him to be at the top of his game nightime, as do you also Visa was a very handy lamping dog.

[Guest joe ox]

TOMO, maxhardcore mentioned your name 1st dragging you into this not me! Did visa have a season off a while back for some reason?

[TOMO 28,798]

TOMO, maxhardcore mentioned your name 1st dragging you into this not me! Did visa have a season off a while back for some reason?

 

oh yes , i remember what your reffering to, and your correct. i had forgot that belive it or not..... but she got stuck in an electric fence for 20 seconds or so, and it did wreck her head for a long time, on rabbits. this was 3 year ago now. not long after the incedent, i went to OZ for the winter , when i came back she started working again..

 

she does NOT pull up though at fences, in the day, but of course lamping is difrent like most lamping dogs will pull up at a hedge or fence.

[Guest joe ox]

oh yes , i remember what your reffering to, and your correct. i had forgot that belive it or not..... but she got stuck in an electric fence for 20 seconds or so, and it did wreck her head for a long time, on rabbits. this was 3 year ago now. not long after the incedent, i went to OZ for the winter , when i came back she started working again..

 

she does NOT pull up though at fences, in the day, but of course lamping is difrent like most lamping dogs will pull up at a hedge or fence.

 

Your wrong there, a lot of lamping dogs dont pull up at fences, hedges,walls depending on what there chasing they go over the top depends how there trained. Mine are also expected to jump out the motor and go over fences, walls when the slipped from the roadside.

Edited October 19, 2009 by joe ox

[TOMO 28,798]

oh yes , i remember what your reffering to, and your correct. i had forgot that belive it or not..... but she got stuck in an electric fence for 20 seconds or so, and it did wreck her head for a long time, on rabbits. this was 3 year ago now. not long after the incedent, i went to OZ for the winter , when i came back she started working again..

 

she does NOT pull up though at fences, in the day, but of course lamping is difrent like most lamping dogs will pull up at a hedge or fence.

 

Your wrong there, a lot of lamping dogs dont pull up at fences, hedges,walls depending on what there chasing they go over the top depends how there trained. Mine are also expected to jump out the motor and go over fences, walls when the slipped from the roadside.

 

 

of course joe , big game agreed, but i was refering to rabbits.

[Guest joe ox]

jOE I NEVER DRAGGED ANYONES DOG DOWN, READ BACK THRU THE POST, IV AINT EVEN KNOCKED ANYONE LAMPING HARES READ BACK THRU THE POST, WHAT I DID WAS MENTION 4 DOGS OUT OF THE SAME LITTER WHERE YOU STATED TWO WERE SHITE THAT COULD DO A GOOD ENOUGH JOB DAYTIME , WHICH THEY WERE BRED FOR ,AS WELL AS BEING OK NIGHTIME I SAID THEY WERE OWNED BY MYSELF , TOMO, FIELDY AND BROCK BUT I DIDNT DRAG THEIR OWNERS OR DOGS DOWN AT ANY POINT ie tomo or his dog. To be truthfull only yesterday i was saying to Tomo that it looked like you had bred a cracking litter for the game you prefere, were as i prefered daytime pre ban. You still havent answred Joe, what do you deem to be the Harder test a Daytime hare or one ran under false light.

 

Thats because it doesnt interest me which is the harder test, they can be testing night and day with different terrains under the right circumstances.

 

People who take them on the lamp with dogs who would struggle daytime thats there perogetive.

 

The above is your words, I was simply pointing out to you any dog can struggle at something it isnt bred for!! People come on here preaching its wrong to run hares at night saying there easy bla bla bla BOLLOX.

[Guest joe ox]

what age are these dogs joe

 

Different ages there trained to jump from an early age, why?

[billy the kid 1984 1]

I like to see them run with a dog then its down to surival of the fittest not getting shot or stuck in nets

i agree with you mate

[Guest joe ox]

if your lamping them often as you say 5 or 6 nights a week what age do they carry on clearing hedges jumping through walls and bringing back red deer live to hand,no doubt you have ok dogs but ive lamped a bit over the yrs and not many hard worked lamping dogs carry on jumping out and doing what you say till 6 and 7 yrs old like i think tomos old bitch is and how often have they been hit by fences electric of coarse.

 

Are you on drugs? Where did I say I lamped 5 or 6 nights a week, my dogs ran through walls and dogs brought any deer never mind red deer back live to hand?

 

Ive lamped a little bit over the years to and never had problems with an acomplished jumper pulling up at walls and fences when the game there chasing go over even after they have had a few injurys doing so!!!!!

[micky 3,325]

Winds blowing ,its very dark,theres a touch of drizzle in the air ,and all the dog men are stroking their well trained keyboards,it wont be long before someone pulls out this debate with a knocked up fingernail

[TOMO 28,798]

Winds blowing ,its very dark,theres a touch of drizzle in the air ,and all the dog men are stroking their well trained keyboards,it wont be long before someone pulls out this debate with a knocked up fingernail

 

knocked up fingernail

[Guest joe ox]

how often these dogs out and how old are they,

and do the drugs well yes i love em

 

Thats my buisness not yours