lurcher lass 9 Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 good idea and like what was mentioned earlier not just the hound side of things, but the lurcher man, the ferreter etc, i'm sure we could come accross as the genuine people with the countryside as our priotrity that we are!! and thanks by the way Annemarie xx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 good idea and like what was mentioned earlier not just the hound side of things, but the lurcher man, the ferreter etc, i'm sure we could come accross as the genuine people with the countryside as our priotrity that we are!!and thanks by the way Annemarie xx Annemarie so are we going to get organised with the letter writing and PR? if we got half the UK members on here to write a letter to their MP , just think of the impetus we could generate! I (we) could even write a blanket letter and pin it on as many hunting forums as possible and get everyone to e-mail a copy to their MP's through the "write to them" website (the website for conatcting your MP).....it would then only take people a couple of minutes! we could also start another of those online e-petitions to number 10! I bet on a poll here very few will have e-mailed their MP about anything let alone Hunting.........they work for us and only act on what they think are issues from what people tell them........the ANTI's write,email ,phone and attend MP's surgeries a lot better than hunters who are usually too busy working,looking after their families and hunting (thats what occupies my life!) Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcher lass 9 Posted September 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 good idea and like what was mentioned earlier not just the hound side of things, but the lurcher man, the ferreter etc, i'm sure we could come accross as the genuine people with the countryside as our priotrity that we are!!and thanks by the way Annemarie xx Annemarie so are we going to get organised with the letter writing and PR? if we got half the UK members on here to write a letter to their MP , just think of the impetus we could generate! I (we) could even write a blanket letter and pin it on as many hunting forums as possible and get everyone to e-mail a copy to their MP's through the "write to them" website (the website for conatcting your MP).....it would then only take people a couple of minutes! we could also start another of those online e-petitions to number 10! I bet on a poll here very few will have e-mailed their MP about anything let alone Hunting.........they work for us and only act on what they think are issues from what people tell them........the ANTI's write,email ,phone and attend MP's surgeries a lot better than hunters who are usually too busy working,looking after their families and hunting (thats what occupies my life!) Andy hi Andy you are spot on with what your saying,,after all thats how the anti-docking alliance got through was by the general public signing an A4 letter pre written for them,, we could write up a few bullet points as to why the hunting ban is failing, inc the working man with his lurcher -or waman with her lurcher,, i'm sure we're not the only one who wants take this sitting down and unless something is started to get the ball rolling nothing will ever change . . we would have to word it very carefully, maybe get an mp or someone higher up to give it a quick read before we posted it, feel free to pm me, i can give you my email address and phone number,, where abouts are you based maybe we could meet up and put pen to paper ?? all the best Annemarie xx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stag1 3 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 sounds good lurcher lass . the ban will not change if we dont make it change by making a move and geting our point across Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stag1 3 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 and with the new govment we could have abit look Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcher lass 9 Posted September 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 exactly!! anyone with ideas for bullet points to be written down please feel free to mention, the more of us involved the better!!! Annemarie xxx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 My suggested Letter! :---- Dear (insert MP's name here) Please could I bring to your attention the general public's dis-approval with the Hunting ACT 2003, this law is not fair and is un-enforceable. I am a Hunter, but probably not the kind of Hunter that will immediately spring to your mind. Not all Hunters wear red jackets and Ride to Hounds, the mounted Packs are still hunting and the HUNTING ACT 2003 is not affecting them. The hunting act is however affecting people at the other end of the Hunting spectrum, I.E. the working classes, the people who either eat what they hunt or who hunt for pest control purely. People who may own a dog or two that they keep at home, people who own Lurchers, Terriers and other types of dog but not a large pack. Also i feel that the use of the PARLIMENT ACT to force through such a law is un-democratic and a breach of the legislation. I know it is a few years since the Hunting act was brought in but this law has drastically damaged the present government in rural circles and I feel that it will cost more votes further down the line and will remain a divide and class based divide as it continues to punish the Hunters at the poorer end of the social spectrum. I feel it also a chronic waste that the government spent so long debating this issue and then ignored the evidence in the Burns report, which was commissioned by the labour government and didn't obviously follow the line that the government wanted to follow. I know one New Labour supporter was quoted after the act was passed as saying " that's one in the eye for the toff's in red coats!", this letter is to point out that its not just toff's in red coats that are suffering and is it really right that the government should be trying to legislate against certain social classes anyway? especially from a government that tries to bring communities together. We should be teaching people to be tolerant of others traditions and this includes British rural traditions. Yours Considering my vote (Insert your name) The letter is intentionally vague and doesn't admit to any particular type of hunting, its a general complaint about the current law. Annemarie do you want to add/alter the letter? or any other suggestions from anyone? And here is the link to the website that lets you e-mail your MP! this website will also allow you to find out who your MP is if you dont know and will also ask you details about you to ensure that you are a constituent and to allow the MP to reply! http://www.writetothem.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 if we got half the UK members on here to write a letter to their MP , just think of the impetus we could generate! The apathy displayed by a majority of the hunting community is one of the biggest problems, I wrote letters to my local MP when the act was being discussed, I along with hundreds of thousands marched but in reality I wonder what the real population of hunting folk did anything apart from piss and moan and sit on there arse. I think any letter that raises the hunting act can't hurt and only help, even if its a lost cause. My best wishes with any letter that highlights our cause and the barmy legislation that is currently in place. Best of luck Edited to add, one thing I think should be thought about is the "toffs" and "commoners" line, many staunch riders, hunt servants and followers of hounds were at the forefront of the marches and the campaigning for ban not to be introduced, they are an integral and traditional part of the hunting community and I think we should be vary carefull not to allianate them and cause any divide............... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 if we got half the UK members on here to write a letter to their MP , just think of the impetus we could generate! The apathy displayed by a majority of the hunting community is one of the biggest problems, I wrote letters to my local MP when the act was being discussed, I along with hundreds of thousands marched but in reality I wonder what the real population of hunting folk did anything apart from piss and moan and sit on there arse. I think any letter that raises the hunting act can't hurt and only help, even if its a lost cause. My best wishes with any letter that highlights our cause and the barmy legislation that is currently in place. Best of luck Edited to add, one thing I think should be thought about is the "toffs" and "commoners" line, many staunch riders, hunt servants and followers of hounds were at the forefront of the marches and the campaigning for ban not to be introduced, they are an integral and traditional part of the hunting community and I think we should be vary carefull not to allianate them and cause any divide............... feel free to edit the letter however you want before sending it, I have sent it to my MP! as it reads I agree we dont want to divide any groups thats why at the end it states "especially from a government that tries to bring communities together. We should be teaching people to be tolerant of others traditions and this includes British rural traditions." we should bring communities together not divide....i cant see how what i wrote will upset any class group within the hunting community........and if i do sorry....i was trying to point out that new labour pushed through the hunting act in revenge for the miners strike ....thats on record somewhere................and that its new labour that has a class issue Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcher lass 9 Posted September 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 tis beautiful though i do agree with simo there was a hell of a lot of hunt followers who done the march, my local one sent a few coach loads to london . . i don't wish to upset any of our own one thing that concerns me is i haven't had much support in this idea of fighting for our hunting Annemaire xxx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poacher3161 1,766 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 tis beautiful though i do agree with simo there was a hell of a lot of hunt followers who done the march, my local one sent a few coach loads to london . . i don't wish to upset any of our own one thing that concerns me is i haven't had much support in this idea of fighting for our hunting Annemaire xxx Thats because a lot just carry on doing wat they have allways done atb dell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 tis beautiful though i do agree with simo there was a hell of a lot of hunt followers who done the march, my local one sent a few coach loads to london . . i don't wish to upset any of our own one thing that concerns me is i haven't had much support in this idea of fighting for our hunting Annemaire xxx Thats because a lot just carry on doing wat they have allways done atb dell But Carrying on regardless is not the point is it........as with restrictions in place the future will be limited for the next generation, fight the ban....get it over turned and then things can resume to normal............there is too much lethargy with the majority on here and this is why we have the ban...........do you think that the ban is the end of it? do you think they wont erode our ways further? do you think there will be as many hunting how we do in 40years??????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poacher3161 1,766 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 If every single adult in my area sent this letter to Dennis Mcshame our M.P he would just ignore it.At the moment their is bigger issues in my area to be concernd about like the Bassingthorpe farm project were the council are proposing to build on green belt land and also the allotments that are going to be took off holders to build houses that the council have admited to being built for imagrants.atb dell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 If every single adult in my area sent this letter to Dennis Mcshame our M.P he would just ignore it.At the moment their is bigger issues in my area to be concernd about like the Bassingthorpe farm project were the council are proposing to build on green belt land and also the allotments that are going to be took off holders to build houses that the council have admited to being built for imagrants.atb dell There is a saying about fiddling whilst rome burns! Do what you are happy to do, or ignore it and be happy sitting and doing nothing......I now what my conscience tells me to do!........i always have to do something rather than nothing.........and they have to reply they cant ignore you........... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poacher3161 1,766 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 If every single adult in my area sent this letter to Dennis Mcshame our M.P he would just ignore it.At the moment their is bigger issues in my area to be concernd about like the Bassingthorpe farm project were the council are proposing to build on green belt land and also the allotments that are going to be took off holders to build houses that the council have admited to being built for imagrants.atb dell There is a saying about fiddling whilst rome burns! Do what you are happy to do, or ignore it and be happy sitting and doing nothing......I now what my conscience tells me to do!........i always have to do something rather than nothing.........and they have to reply they cant ignore you........... Thats why i am urging people to support the B.N.P cadidate for my area as already 2 labour councilers have back tracked on the housing development due to only having a 100 votes difference.The labour MPs for s.yorks did not listen or take any notice [bANNED TEXT] letters were sent to them before about hunting wat makes you think they are going to be any different now???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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