mad al 146 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 After seeing the topic on a dog being bitten by an "Adder", I just thought I'd say that whatever the snake, who/whatever they bite, make the bite bleed and seek medical attention, don't be the hero and think "suck the venom" , the more you can do to make the wound bleed the better Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Scuba1 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 After seeing the topic on a dog being bitten by an "Adder", I just thought I'd say that whatever the snake, who/whatever they bite, make the bite bleed and seek medical attention, don't be the hero and think "suck the venom" , the more you can do to make the wound bleed the better That would depend very much on what snake has bitten you and if it was a full bite or not. ATB Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad al 146 Posted June 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Adders and trouser snakes in the UK Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcher lass 9 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 hi it was my dog bitten, i went to vet straight away, the reason why i posted the topic was because its now a week and a half, the leg is still swollen and my bitch is miserable not being allowed out, i'm following the vets advice to a t bt i'm just concerned if the vet is having me on, have done so before, th reason i posted was the topic was for anyones experience with this situation thanks for advice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Scuba1 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) Adders and trouser snakes in the UK Michael As far as I know the full bite from a trouser snake will stop bleeding but can cause some serious swelling above the area that is bitten. On a more serious note the bite of an adder ( Vipera berus ) should not be made to bleed but you should immobilise the the affected limb and get medical attention as soon as. Because you are not going to get any of the venom out of the wound by bleeding it and the venom can cause dizziness, vomiting and swelling of the area around the bite. Its the dizzy bit that should worry you in this case, as the venom does affect the circulatory system and people that have a weak heart or similar condition could be at risk here even though the bite of an adder is painful ( yes this dumb idiot has tried it ) it is not as a rule life threatening. ATB Michael Edited June 23, 2009 by Scuba1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcher lass 9 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 good to know, thank you, i'm just worried about her Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Scuba1 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 good to know, thank you, i'm just worried about her The thing is, that a bog weighs a lot less then a human and therefore they get a higher percentage of venom per bite and the swelling and pain can take up to 4 weeks to go down. But if your dog has not snuffed it in the first 3 days, he is over the worst of the effects and will get better. It just needs a bit of time. I have been bitten and stung by a lot of things on land and under water and one of the worst for me was a Portuguese man o war. That had me in cold shakes for 3 days. and the scars of it where still visible 3 years after I got stung by it. My fault. ATB Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longdog2000 1 Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Is your dog on an anti histamine course? Ive been bitten by a few nasties over the yrs Taipan included and a few rattlesnake species,occupational hazard lol. The swelling is coursed by the haemotoxic venom,should go down soon.Dogs can be given Vipera berus antivenin but in this case it would be unwise to administer it. Just a note for any one else, especialy state side on this forum ,is that when vets treat for snake bite they tend to give a lower dose of antivenin for dogs,this is not the case,they need higher doses than humans,get them to call the nearest poisons unit for advice, regards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longdog2000 1 Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 (edited) feel free to pm me for any details/help if the dog gets worse Edited June 24, 2009 by longdog2000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 The fells of my area are rife with Adders, and about 4 years ago two dogs died on the estate I worked on as a result of adder bites... Also my sisters patterdale was bitten and she had to recussitate the dog (mouth to mouth) 3 times until she got it home and sorted it, as she is a vet. The first dog was a big black lab, that must have got bitten when out on a warm evening in the early autumn picking up ducks after an evening flight, the leg was swollen, and sore.. the dog was kept in the vets overnight where it made an apparent recovery, however its liver and kidneys packed in a couple of days later and it died. The second one was a farm collie, was out gathering on the fell, and put back into the kennel afterwards, was found later on stone dead, with a swollen neck, the air way had become restricted as the bite was around the addams apple area. The adders are so commoon in some parts that I totally avoid them until coller weather in september or october, even then there will be snakes out, but they are usually too slow to bite a passing dog... A terrier of mine has killed a few adders, and a few times ive had the whole pack snapping at a snake that has become pissed off at the dogs and striking at them... scary stuff, but most dogs realise the danger somehow, must be instinct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Trouser snakes can spit venom over a great distance, its not venomous but its does crust your slacks...................... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Trouser snakes can spit venom over a great distance, its not venomous but its does crust your slacks...................... Trust you to lower the tone... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
birdman6 10 Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Trouser snakes can spit venom over a great distance, its not venomous but its does crust your slacks...................... Trust you to lower the tone... I herd it was more like a slow worm. :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Trouser snakes can spit venom over a great distance, its not venomous but its does crust your slacks...................... Trust you to lower the tone... I herd it was more like a slow worm. :lol: Aye, and even that's being generous, Wilf told me! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Wilf told me it looked like a babies arm................... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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