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5 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:
I don’t mind paying but j won’t line the pockets of somebody breeding for cash, but I’ll happily cover the cost of rearing an travelling to get it an even a. Few quid extra for breeders hassle, but I don’t get where all these peddlers are coming from, iv had a few lurchers in me days an the line bred or gen bred ones I had didn’t come with no price tag at all, an never had any breeder breathing down my neck scared incase I bettered his own dogs, in fact I honestly can’t think of anybody I know who has been in that situation, so like I said anybody moaning about these practices must be hanging around the wrong sort
I once sold a traveling lad a pup for 150 quid and he sold it at 14 month for 7500 pounds I was well pleased for him and me. that others thought it worth that.
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17 minutes ago, darbo said:
Old hancock like him or loathe him never charged £500 for dogs in the early 90s. I had one in 1987 cost £80 had another in 1990 it was £92 .
I dont care for people getting a living from selling dogs but folk knew what they were, and I don't think they were ever dear, what you get in coursing game, was mr rich man paying big money for a good dog some lad on minimum wage with three kids and rent to pay, had brought on and could not afford to turn it down,
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5 hours ago, Shadow100 said:
I got a pup off him & it turned out parents weren’t what they were meant to be, dog wasn’t awful to be fair just didn’t suit what I was after, mate down south had it to mess about with and was quite happy with it.
I’ve seen a few good coursing bred dogs but in general I don’t think much to them for hard work, ones that can take stick are few and far between. This opinion doesn’t suit Two Crows though with him being a coursing dog groupie/promoter, as they’ve all got their head up each others arses and can’t admit their dogs have any faults.
I reckon he’s an old bullshitter that does f**k all with his dogs and probably didn’t do all that much when he was younger either so he comes on here with a few old pictures & acts like a fountain of knowledge.
The pup I’ve got at the moment is actually out of a coursing bred bitch that I’ve seen run a lot and rate highly, back to a good lamping dog, so that shows how bitter I am.
That’s the last I’ll say on it hope everyone has a good season whatever type of dogs you’ve got
well we all cant be special, so some have to make stuff up to try and get a bit of attention, posting about things we never did, and know nothing about, in the 5 mins we been doing it.
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8 hours ago, Black neck said:
Did u sell him a duffer
no p***y poacher did, there is a thread about it.
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4 hours ago, Shadow100 said:
I had a pup off someone years ago and it didn’t work out, believe it or not I don’t lose sleep over that. Just in response to your earlier post, maybe if some of us to live to 200 we can hope to be as brilliant and knowledgeable as you. You thick headed, kennel blind old fool.
but your not bitter lol
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3 hours ago, SheepChaser said:
I think you’ve a bit of a chip on your shoulder about these ‘line bred’ animals. Don’t suppose you were sold a duffer by any chance
Never net anyone who thought a crap dog was good cis it’s grandma was, but also seen some very good dogs that were bred out of very good dogs, and you tend to find it all it it’s ancestors were very good, there’s a fair chance it had potential to be it brought on right.
well said, he did, and we all to blame, stockmanship is lost on some people.
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5 hours ago, poxon said:
you have completely missed the point I was getting at I know what a line is it’s a family of close breds with no contamination of other blood of other crosses only close bred family tree with outcross lines being Bred separated from the main line to be put back in at a later date as the out cross
Like I’ve said most people with a line don’t want people to contribute unless it’s on there say so most people with a active line are kennel blind as f**k there only breed out there own owned dogs regularly They rarely want or will except other people’s involvement or opinions of the better dog to be put back in to improve there line because there to busy nocking out litters to shout about there line with a following of bum bandits to help bum the line up to help with sales like I’ve said people that guard a line wouldn’t want people combining lines producing scatter breds that are better than there line as that proves the point are there lines really that good to start with or is the gamble with a line or scatter bred the same it’ll either work or it won’t We’re talking Lurchers here two crows not courseing dogs but look at the lurcher world on here there’s some decent dogs of bitza breeding well a lot of dogs on here are bitza bred taking most things then you have line breds bred for one quarry species. And wasn’t you just on about adding a beddy to your stuff what’s the point in that backwards step wouldn’t be?
what I may do is nothing to do with line breeding, I just want to end my fantastic journey where it began over 50 years ago, I saw the best years, gone now for ever sadly, if you lads live to be a 100 you wont do what we did.
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2 minutes ago, poxon said:
Thing with most the people with a line of Lurchers they don’t want people that will contribute to it they seem purest it’s like the colliex fans only want collie the beddy x fans only want beddy bull x want bull etc they fail to see a mix up of different base bloods works wonders in ironing out negatives in the types they certainly wouldn’t want a man combining a line to produce scatter breds that produces better than there line they got going or else it contradicts there line of being any good in the first place if a man can wack two random dogs together an produces better than a line
no that's not adding to a line that's messing it up, it wont be a line then they be bitsas, you be going backwards, not saying they would be bad dogs, but not line bred. you can breed good mongrels but the chance of it producing another?
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8 minutes ago, Black neck said:
Are the beating aswell as picking up like
yes if needs be, but working a gang properly in the beating line takes a lot of concentration, I rather pick up these days, but I don't prat about round the guns I walk miles for the pricked ones and stuff others cant find.
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2 minutes ago, Loton Moocher said:
Ha ha if i started to line breed id be well over 100 [BANNED TEXT] it starts to bear fruit ?
there is nothing stopping any one joining into an existing line and contributing to it, but most would rather be negative sadly.
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1 hour ago, Gypsydog94 said:
Exactly people with perfect gun dogs on the one day a week they do. Try 6 days and see if they handle that all season! About the only dog that gets grafted hard I know of would be a hill farm collie out everyday what ever the weather!
my cockers are out 3\4 days a week and never stop, they are not posers they workers, and get tested hard all season.
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7 minutes ago, Shadow100 said:
To be fair thought how many lines keep producing generation after generation, you’ll get a man starting with a good dog, and it’ll produce very average, but he’ll breed off that one anyway because it’s out of his good old dog, and so on. Then eventually he gets something else worth talking about maybe 4 generations down and they shout the lines producing, is it really though or is it just luck that they’ve got 1 decent dog out of the last 4 litters they’ve bred.
Fair enough they’ll throw to type, colour, stamp etc after a while but if you’re testing them hard you’ll get wastage same as you would doing best to best from scatter bred stuff.
For me if I see a good dog and I fancy using it on a bitch, id ask how it was bred, but it really wouldn’t be a big concern, if I liked how the dog ran, it was durable and most importantly been tested proper then I’d use it whether it looked good on paper or not. Easy to get caught up in lines and names IMO that’s when things go downhill cause people think they don’t need to test anymore it’s a sure thing with this breeding.
If you want a dog to take stick 2/3 times a week only way is to breed your own between yourself and a few mates because not many people are doing all that.
fare comment but if someone don't have a go there would be nothing for those who don't breed to run, to many experts that do f kall to improve or add to a line about if you ask me, and its better to create a line, than blunder about, the best livestock of any kind is line bred.
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51 minutes ago, bird said:
true , but alot of lads have got jobs where they only prob can get out couple times a week , not every body can spend 24/7 with a lurcher, when i worked at my local brewery , starting 7am every day, getting up 6am till 4 pm, still lamped couple nights a week , but it killed you rolling in 4am from lamping , then up for work , younger back then ok, but still fooked you up deff.
same here mate, are you sure it was just lack of sleep mate lol
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7 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:
Why would you want to put a greyhound into a line of Lurchers these days? Yes they are fast. But unless you’re breeding first x or you’re Lurchers are scatter bred, it’s a massive backwards step.
Yer Lurcher breeding isn’t rocket science - just breed typey / line bred, best to best and don’t lie to yourself and others about how good or bad the dog/s are.
On a side note - most Lurchers, probably most working dogs, just don’t see the graft, and a lot of folk think an average dog is a good one, and that’s a fact!
I have said that for years most never see the real deal.
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with what I have kept, you can go like to like for 3 or 4 gens then back to saluki then carry on like to like the fact that the out cross pups are like three quarter saluki don't make any difference imho. when I had first crosses I went greyhound to make three quarter that was a mistake, the same bitch to saluki threw top class, I also went first x first x they were ok to, with regards lurchers if they bred for a gen or two and are what is required go to something alike, the probs start from to many ingredients in the mix to start with imho. so beddy grey x beddy grey should be fine, just out of interest in the present climate where coursing is, I might put a beddy lurcher to my bitch and go back to were I started.
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On 17/08/2020 at 17:32, two crows said:
yes but wild l used to get some bullace as well but the farmer died and his hedges are cut tight back now the damsons are in a safe place though.
just went back to look for bullace and found a few so got them and some sloes the hedges be cut any time, I forgot the camera but there was a lot of bees going under an old ash tree.
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4 minutes ago, Loton Moocher said:
Always hound to lurcher lurcher to hound. Lurcher breeding isnt a science not much wastage if kept simple
that sounds a good saying mate, but wont work in practise to much hound after a couple of goes lol
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13 minutes ago, Arry said:
Are they Damsons mate?
yes but wild l used to get some bullace as well but the farmer died and his hedges are cut tight back now the damsons are in a safe place though.
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18 minutes ago, Shadow100 said:
If I bred a litter of pups I’d rather see one go to an old man to lie in front of a fire than some idiot that’ll feed it shit food, run it on hard ground mid summer, and shout about how amazing it is then sell it.
As long as someone looks after their dogs and doesn’t tell lies they can go out once a year for all I care
that's fair enough better a good pet home than some idiot writing it off as a failure by nine month and getting rid.
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2 hours ago, Arry said:
Out for a Mooch see if any Fungi about. Few nice fresh Chanterelles just coming.
A big manky bolete 6 inches across, was a none eater as it cut blue.
Pick a bag of Wild Plums for the wife.
Small but well sweet.
Cheers Arry
mine are going in some gin
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no not rely lol, I don't usualy brag about dogs but I bred ben f1 sal grey, I only run small edible stuff as a rule, but I used to go with a lad at night who would do any thing and in some rum places, and ben did every thing he was asked with no reverse, from the sharp end to large ish stuff.
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3 hours ago, sandymere said:
Getting itchy feet now.
she looks like a first cross saluki grey mate, might run like one, you be made up then sandy lol
Need to be quick grab a bargain
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what is your chosen branch of lurcher work then shadow if you don't mind me asking.