well lads I started of asking about the marlin xt17vr then I got very interested in the savage b-mag .17wsm and I would have gotin 1, but I went down to the gun shop today and the gun smith told me that he had being trying to get info of Winchester and savage on when the gun would arrive on his shelf and he recons it will be at least a year so I said f*$" that. the next gun I asked about was the .17 hornet. he had the gun but the ammo was too costly to be popin of rabbits with over 1 euro each + he recons its very hard to get ammo for it. now after all that I chose to keep the cz .22 wmr for r