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  1. When I say personally I mean with my dogs haha
  2. I dont know how far you can carry it on to a conclusion in dogs and most breeders are secretive about it, or even deny it altogether. Ive heard of years of it without going out at all. Personally Im still doing it with success. You can get mutations after intensive I think like the Bent head in Bullterriers and the coat colours in intensively bred foxes but Im no expert. You could ask someone like Ken Gould if hes still about, he knows all about it and more than me.
  3. I dont know if I'll live long enough to tell you. If you were planning on breeding a litter of Greyhounds you could go on Greyhound data and put both prospective parents in and it can tell you what the coefficient of inbreeding is before you even mated them. All Greyhounds are related.
  4. You cant add with inbreeding but you can improve stock. You need to start with good dogs or at least one, dog or bitch. They might not be pure but they have qualities and you can breed to them in and in, culling anything that isnt healthy.
  5. Ive put this up before but look at this pedigree to produce a stud Bull of purity. They were not afraid to go close in those days and the butter yield just went up and up.
  6. Brother sister is quicker to see results good or bad because its simplified.
  7. I think you have to keep an eye open and look for bad aswell as good traits. If you get to a pre potent or pure dominant stud for instance, he could mate faulty bitches because his DD genes will cover any faults the bitch has, but that only works for one mating because you have reintroduced recessive genes back into the blood.
  8. You are inbreeding,well done. People get all tied up about diffrent relations, brother/sister sire/daughter etc. That isnt the important thing. If they share a common genes and must be very healthy ,thats the main thing
  9. You can also end up with bigger fertility. You dont have to kill pups just dont breed them.
  10. You mean breeding back into its family back into its family?
  11. If dominant is D and recessive is R there is 3 ways they can divide and come together DD DR RR. Good traits are usually dominant. You cant add by inbreeding you can only take away, so you take away the dross. The recessive. When recessives come together you see the flaw, ie flat feet, cowardice, cow hocks etc. So you cull or remove from programme. The ideal is all traits represented by DD double dominant.
  12. If you want to learn you need to understand how genes divide when the egg is fertilised by the sperm and how they are divided into dominant and recessive, and how traits are represented by dominant and recessive genes.
  13. You can lock in good or bad. Inbreeding is just a lot quicker in the beginning.
  14. Why too close? What makes it bad?
  15. What is it that makes you think that? whats the reasoning?
  16. The point Im making is siblings do not all have the same genetic makeup but they certainly got more in common which makes it easier to see and fix traits.
  17. You are taking the bigger chance with unrelated breeding. Close breeding puts the odds in your favour. Bad breeding is fixing bad traits or conditions because they are unseen or ignored.
  18. I mean why didnt you go in more? How can we be sure that the good traits we are wanting to fix are fixed so quickly? Can you rid the strain of all recessives in just 2 matings? When you outcross you are introducing thousands of new genes and the the risk of undoing the good work you have done. The idea is to purify/fix as you say, its a fascinating thing but it takes time in dogs that are bred for work traits, but you have to have an eye on the physical aswell.
  19. Yes and no problems. Both parents need to be healthy and no problems of there own. Have you visited Norfolk?
  20. I had one looked a bit like him but black. Half saluki x to a mongrel lurcher. He was a shit hot little dog and loads of wind too, fox hare n rabbit and occasional venison, he only weighed 45lb
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