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Oh the photo is up. Fair play to you Greyman.
I think I'll sit on the fence.
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Don't tell me...you've got a catholic side to the family and you won't go to chapel?..?No there cousins ! Dont do uncles or aunts either. Been to 3 funerals in my whole life.
Dont make me cold hearted at all.
And yea i dont honestly care if they chuck me in a landfill.
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Brilliant. Upper cut like that old boy Mike Tyson...?
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Well I enjoy the Scone one. Don't buy much like but it's a chance to meet up with folk you don't see that much and have a blether about stuff that interests you.
I make a day off it...end up in the beer tent and stay in Perth on the sat. If it's good weather it's a cracking day.
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yep its ok and my daughter is a big fan lol
So is my girlfriend. God knows why...?
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Don't get them in fife but there was one around my place a few years back. My neighbour said he saw it, I actually thought he was mistaken because they are not around here. But I seen it myself one day.
I don't know if someone has let it go around this area.
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Congratulations to the fife lad. Met him a few times at the gym I went to....don't know him personally but he has done well tonight against a very tough lad.
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We need some footage of Socks looking at the footage so we can decide if either of the footage is real.......
Where the fukc have I said I'm backing out of meeting greyman lol ... he's only showing me some footage he has of a potential big cat not challenging me to a dual ... you need to stay of the drink fella .......Cocks is trying to bsck out of meeting greyman
Could he bring his passport with him so I know it's Socks...??
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If you think a ko win is better than beating a champ in his fighting home country on points then your mad lol people can say it's a lucky punch etc a points win is far more point provenAj will do what fury couldn't and that's win in style ??
Ffs that's embarrassing. Come on mate now I know you love Tyson and he did very well in winning that fight. If he had ko'd Vlad in the first we would never have heard the end of it.
Sounds like your making excuses already for AJ if he was to ko Vlad. I'd doubt very much you will give credit to AJ no matter how good he gets.
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It sure is mate.....a bit too far for something that really doesn't mean that much to me. I'd still really like to see it though.
Fair enough, it's a long drive though mate....:-)
Difficult question. Socks I have known on here for a long time now....I do believe he is a straight talker. I haven't met him in person though so it would be rude of me to take his word and not Greymans. We already know that Greyman thinks it may well be interpreted different ways by different people.
Would you respect his verdict if positive? or dismiss it? ;-)
I hope your going to be truly honest when you see this photo....
The reason you don't see dead birds laying around is because predators eat them ... now I should imagine a secretive creature such as a big cat is going to find the quietest most secluded area when it's that I'll it's going to die so not much chance of seeing a body ... added to the fact the hundreds of thousands of foxes and badgers and rats that will be queuing up to strip it bare it's no surprise we don't find corpses .........
Exactly
How many birds do you see on a daily basis yet imo you hardly see a dead bird lying aroundIf it's accepted that in the past people released big cats into the wild and those cats died pretty soon in the 70'80 where are those cars corpses. How come they didn't get knocked over etc. The lack of body evidence is mentioned quite a lot but nobody wonders where the originals went
Really id have to see for myself..
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Difficult question. Socks I have known on here for a long time now....I do believe he is a straight talker. I haven't met him in person though so it would be rude of me to take his word and not Greymans. We already know that Greyman thinks it may well be interpreted different ways by different people.
Would you respect his verdict if positive? or dismiss it? ;-)
I hope your going to be truly honest when you see this photo....
The reason you don't see dead birds laying around is because predators eat them ... now I should imagine a secretive creature such as a big cat is going to find the quietest most secluded area when it's that I'll it's going to die so not much chance of seeing a body ... added to the fact the hundreds of thousands of foxes and badgers and rats that will be queuing up to strip it bare it's no surprise we don't find corpses .........
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How many birds do you see on a daily basis yet imo you hardly see a dead bird lying aroundIf it's accepted that in the past people released big cats into the wild and those cats died pretty soon in the 70'80 where are those cars corpses. How come they didn't get knocked over etc. The lack of body evidence is mentioned quite a lot but nobody wonders where the originals went
Really id have to see for myself..??
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The reason you don't see dead birds laying around is because predators eat them ... now I should imagine a secretive creature such as a big cat is going to find the quietest most secluded area when it's that I'll it's going to die so not much chance of seeing a body ... added to the fact the hundreds of thousands of foxes and badgers and rats that will be queuing up to strip it bare it's no surprise we don't find corpses .........
Exactly
How many birds do you see on a daily basis yet imo you hardly see a dead bird lying aroundIf it's accepted that in the past people released big cats into the wild and those cats died pretty soon in the 70'80 where are those cars corpses. How come they didn't get knocked over etc. The lack of body evidence is mentioned quite a lot but nobody wonders where the originals went
I hope your going to be truly honest when you see this photo....?
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Well here's hoping you can get some concrete evidence mate.....enough so you might even want to share with us 'disbelievers'...?
not being cheeky at all mate it's a bold statement to make, I,ve always had a mild interest as there have always been lots of sightings and the beast of Bodmin and exmoor and so on in the southwest were I,ve always lived I,ve also spent many years carp fishing in places people don't normally carp fish like rivers and drains on the Somerset levels and canals all over the south and a lot of people have told me of big cats on the land around normally as a warning because I,m rough camping in the middle of no where then three years ago I found a deer on my normal walk that was killed and stripped to the bone leaving just a head and shoulder in tact though the face had bite marks in sadly I never carried a camera so took no pictures but new what had killed it as it was still soft and dripping with blood plus the long grass it was in kind of drew a picture of what had happened so I started buying odd cameras and getting them at chrimbo and bdays I was just sticking them everywhere and anywere in the hope of getting a picture, since January this year I have slowly been moving them all closer in on an area I thought they were using and I finally got a picture, but the knowledge through mostly mistakes with the odd little bit of success that I,ve gained leads me to believe that I know we're they are at certain times of the year so I think a baited trap would eventually lead to a capture but as I get no end of fox and badgers on the cameras I would obviously need to free them twice a day, I am planning on putting a deer carcass up in front of one but they are a long climb up a steep gorge and I'm not really meant to be there even without a deer on my back so that's were I am at the moment also the foliage is growing so fast the cameras keep getting covered and the more I touch them the more smell I leave which is another reason summer is the worse time for it I will probably go for a deer bait on one in September when all the solar powered ramblers feck off home and the land I,m filming on is shut up for the winter again as a camera in a bush is a bit more discreet than a deer strung up in a tree, I,ve had a great winter learning and it's a bit of a gutter summer is here in a way but I'm sure I,ll manage to enjoy it
I feel like I'm being a bit cheeky here mate but it's through genuine interest. Why do you think you could catch one and in all the years you've been doing this now you can't even get a photo that would prove 100% that some form of big cats are in the U.K.
I actually believe that if someone was willing to pay me for my time I could catch a live one but it would take all of your time releasing fox,s and badgers from your traps so it would have to be a full time job, also there is a big issue with smell, I rub horse shit in my hands and shoes when I go to my cameras, but it still takes a while for normal wildlife to accept it, the infa red illuminater is meant to be invisible to animals but I have seen to many animals react to them to believe that, I,ve had two cameras set at low level actually ripped off the post by badgers and deer do react to the light, it's best to set them a bit higher up facing down, and the longer you can leave them alone the better
Yes these do seem to be fact. So is it so unbelievable others remain at large?I've had a read a few found in scotland and captured alive. None were black cats though. Escaped pets or zoo animals they reckon. One was spotted a few times over years and caught live years later. So it just shows they can be elusive. Very interesting topic.
Now I know that foxes, deer and badgers are very easy to follow on a day to day pattern. Most of them will follow the same path, roughly same times each day. Especially if there is a handy food source available.
Now I know that these types of cats don't need to kill the animal to eat it....so why can't you rope up maybe half a deer, out the way of anything that's going to eat it and point your camera directly at the bait and see what you get on camera.
I keep saying it but I'd happily be wrong to think we have some form of big cats living and 'breeding' in the uk. That would blow my mind.
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I feel like I'm being a bit cheeky here mate but it's through genuine interest. Why do you think you could catch one and in all the years you've been doing this now you can't even get a photo that would prove 100% that some form of big cats are in the U.K.
I actually believe that if someone was willing to pay me for my time I could catch a live one but it would take all of your time releasing fox,s and badgers from your traps so it would have to be a full time job, also there is a big issue with smell, I rub horse shit in my hands and shoes when I go to my cameras, but it still takes a while for normal wildlife to accept it, the infa red illuminater is meant to be invisible to animals but I have seen to many animals react to them to believe that, I,ve had two cameras set at low level actually ripped off the post by badgers and deer do react to the light, it's best to set them a bit higher up facing down, and the longer you can leave them alone the better
Yes these do seem to be fact. So is it so unbelievable others remain at large?I've had a read a few found in scotland and captured alive. None were black cats though. Escaped pets or zoo animals they reckon. One was spotted a few times over years and caught live years later. So it just shows they can be elusive. Very interesting topic.
Now I know that foxes, deer and badgers are very easy to follow on a day to day pattern. Most of them will follow the same path, roughly same times each day. Especially if there is a handy food source available.
Now I know that these types of cats don't need to kill the animal to eat it....so why can't you rope up maybe half a deer, out the way of anything that's going to eat it and point your camera directly at the bait and see what you get on camera.
I keep saying it but I'd happily be wrong to think we have some form of big cats living and 'breeding' in the uk. That would blow my mind.
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the footage I have at present would be torn apart much like the photo that started all of this mate, but as I have spent several years in this woodland after a few sightings were reported following animal trails and getting reports from locals I have over three years narrowed down my search to a small gulley I thought they had been using to get from one side of the forest to the other and in early March I believe I got what I came for plus a little bit more, as the pictures were taken at night they are in black and white, I have sent them off to some local researchers that then enlarge the pics take certain measurements on the animal and superimpose things on for reference, I had an email back saying that they believe it is what I think it is, now here's a clue, in May there is some form of mountain lion/puma/cougar convention in Montana I believe and the film is going over there for there views and opinions, what I would really like to get is a daytime picture of the animal on a kill or close enough to the camera that there can be know argument, as to what it is and what species it is, I am not really being that secretive I just need to finish what I,m doing before I show a case that can't be argued, if socks is ever in my neck of the woods he's welcome to have a peak and let me know his thoughts, that's the only reason I show it to anyone is because I can't believe it myself and needed some confirmation, there are enough people here good country people that say they or someone they know has seen one to put it beyond doubt really, it's just wether you want to believe it or not, i,ll leave it there for now but thanks everyone can't believe we got more replys than the snap election for a while cheersAnybody else thinking about meeting greyman in a motorway stop to see this video .
Do you have any plans on releasing defining footage at any point in the future greyman?
Thanks for the replies. I can understand it can be frustrating trying to get others to believe like you obviously do. But I'm afraid this post you have put here makes me think even less that they are out there.
Cheers.
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I've never wanted to see a video so much in my life now. That's your pad video put back to 2nd place now Dogman...???
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always thought it looked like frogs spawnTapioca pudding, makes me gag just thinking about it
Exactly what we call it. Love the stuff.
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everyone that has seen it is of the same opinion as me and these are people from all walks of life, people who have more interest in the colour of there nail varnish than big cats, and people that have hunted all there life, I don't tell them what it is or were its from, I just ask people what they think is in the picture and of around twenty or so people they all said the same thing so I,m happy, I won't show it online as once it's out there I have know control of were it goes or who does what with it so for the time being it stays that way sorryGreyman...you say you have a photo that proves to you that there are big cats out there in parts of the uk. If you showed it to somebody do you think it's a good enough photo to prove it?
That's fair doos mate. Your photo...your rules.
You've obviously got a huge interest in this. We must be different because if i had, what I thought and everyone I showed it too, a photo of a big cat that clearly showed it was one I'd be telling everyone. Especially to the sceptics like me out there.
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Greyman...you say you have a photo that proves to you that there are big cats out there in parts of the uk. If you showed it to somebody do you think it's a good enough photo to prove it?
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Fpmsl..?There I was the pressure taken in, my breathing slowed to a cubic capacity relevant to the weight of the pellet and the curve of the
Earth, fear tingled through my mechanix gloves as I placed my range finder next to my prey bag , how would I manage? The shot of a life time beckoned
The prey fluttered ever so slightly
Just as i zeroed in, my mam burst out the back door screaming "Herbert , put that toy down and come in for your tea, your 42 for fucks sakes ''
Next week, how I shot a mouse in Africa from Chiswick using a bsa
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In fact the sun is shining here now and i cant even see the ben its covered in mist lolYea there a lot of things that the PC and health & safety legislate i disagree with mate, but i just found this unbelievably stupid and reckless.
In all probability they have never set foot on this mountain before so would have no idea of the terrain or layout. Seriously within minutes it can change and cant even see you're hand in front of you're face. Lad from Yorkshire this Feb got caught up in it and strayed off the path and walked clean off the North face.
Right chookter noo are ye no....?
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Was kind of hoping he was caught by some vigilante mob, shot and killed and it posted to FB.
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What really makes me disbelieve is the amount of livestock that would have to go missing to feed these mysterious animals. Put that along side the technology we have now, yes NV, and I can't see how they can keep hidden 24/7. When we get snow how do they manage to sneak about unoticed....I'm sorry but one footprint does not cut it. There should be hundreds.
Again....I'll be happy for you to prove me wrong but it would need to be concrete evidence to make me change my mind.
Happy searching...
Can't argue with needing the evidence, it's a prerequisite, but it wouldn't necessarily be a massive issue to livestock. Cats here follow the deer herds and livestock damage is very low. I'm not say they don't take livestock but they wouldn't need to hunt deer at all in these parts if that was the case. My son's seen one while out with the dog, but all I've ever seen is tracks. Nothing on camera and a couple of the rangers, I know, have never seen a live one. This is in a part of the world where they probably outnumber the people.
If there is a population in the UK I really do think it's plausible that it could remain undetected because of the lack of numbers. Over here they have dedicated teams of people that actively monitor them, and while they can see the evidence that points to them they don't see a lot of them.
Over there they're not even open to the possibility that they even exist, so any evidence put forward is immediately at risk of mockery. From that alone I can understand why people privately go about satisfying their own curiosity, without fuss.
Your in the US mate is that correct? (Can't see on my phone). I really don't think we can base our little island to the likes of the US on how big cats would behave.
Possibly they would find it a better solution to hunt deer in cover but there's is not too much to pick from over here. Sheep would be the easy option.
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no mate, but I,m open to convincing, the thing is with the cats there is lots of small Pieces of the puzzle it's upto people to look for it and put it together, my entire family called me a fool for what I do but now they believe me without question because they have seen what I have seen, I show them my pictures and my bits of evidence and they now understand what is here and the amount of shit I take because I choose to look for evidence, if I find a big fish that has been killed by an otter I can tell within a few minutes because they use the same technique to capture and drag the fish from the water they then eat the best fillet and leave the rest, it's an operation I have seen dozens of times, likewise when I find a deer,sheep fox or badger that has been killed and eaten in one sitting I can tell with almost 100 percent confidence if it's been killed by a big cat because the methods are always the same, i then check for dental markings on the bones and any bite marks these are sent off for the academics to deal with I just look for field evidence I have hunted over the same land for over thirty years never knowing there were any big cats there apart from one news paper report about 30 years ago were multiple people reported seeing one in the same spot, then in 2015 I was doing my rounds when I found a roe Buck that had been killed and totally consumed in one sitting as it was soft and fresh and dripping with blood, I placed my one and only camera in the hedge nearby hoping to catch the culprit but nothing happened, even though there was a large active badger set and a fox earth with two grown Cubs all in the same field, every animal that came anywere near the carcass reacted with fear and fled and it was over a fortnight before anything would touch it, but once they had they ate the rest in a couple of hours, since that day I have found some nice footprints several more carcasses all killed and eaten in exactly the same way and this year I got the picture I needed to prove to myself what I already new was living in the woods I had walked in for ever, since I have been looking and a few local people know what I do people get in touch with me and tell me what they have seen and I have had three different people report seeing a big cat in the woods and even photos of footprints this year alone, one couple have one of my cameras in there garden they live right in the middle of the woods and have had a cat pass through there garden in the past, they love looking at the wildlife and if the cat ever returns they will let me know, people just want to talk with someone who won't tell them they are wrong or mad, it's a bit of a snowball effect and as most of the hunting I have enjoyed over the years is now illegal and I,ve caught, killed and cooked most things there are living in the wild I now choose to spend my time hunting for evidence and pictures to help prove the case and maybe help people understand in the future, it keeps an old bloke fit and active keeps me out the house and gives me loads to speak with people about like all you lot here, cheersGreyman....serious question. Do you think the Loch Ness Monster is out there.?
I'm glad you didn't take that question the wrong way mate....it was genuine. I just thought I'd ask to see if you believed in everything unexplained or it was just a fascination with big cats you have.
I'm a pretty sceptical person mate and I think it would take me seeing one with my own eyes to believe it.
I do remember talking to a keeper years ago and he told me a wee story about how one day he sent a picker up to go look for a duck just on darkening after the last drive. Seemingly the guy returned, no duck but as white as a sheet. Says the dog was hunting a bit cover and came out sharpish with its tails between its legs. Then a big cat type jumped up on to the wall infront of him, quick look then slipped away. He was deadly serious.
What really makes me disbelieve is the amount of livestock that would have to go missing to feed these mysterious animals. Put that along side the technology we have now, yes NV, and I can't see how they can keep hidden 24/7. When we get snow how do they manage to sneak about unoticed....I'm sorry but one footprint does not cut it. There should be hundreds.
Again....I'll be happy for you to prove me wrong but it would need to be concrete evidence to make me change my mind.
Happy searching...??
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