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  1. iam looking to get a lab for a retreaver for my airgun shooting but have some question need help with

     

    1) can i keep in home or is it best to be outside

     

    2) what color is it best to go for

     

    many thanks dan

    Colour is not an issue really. Working dogs should be always kept outside in a kennel.

  2. Does anyone have an opinion on which is the best foxcaller. I've tried loads of the plastic mouth callers and haven't really found a consistently good one. Any ideas??

    If you are lamping from a vehicle then a bit of polysterine( wet it with your tongue) and squeak it down the window, works a treat! Deadly at cub time. :thumbs:

  3. hllo, expect to loose 20%, so if he wantin 6x50-100 bird days buy in 800 imho,

    the layout has to be adequate, to hold and drive birds. not much woodland from what you

    described. birds like to roost out of the elements. do the neighbours hold shoots as you

    could gain and lose birds,

     

     

    p.s... most farmers i no will take the sugar oot ya tea, so run some costs by him first.

    20 years back we were charging $31.50 + vat per bird,,,

    atb

    You dont run a shoot do you Snorker? If he is lucky he should expect to shoot 50% of his birds and at that he will still be doing good. Only small shoots that are surrounded with large shoots would get antwhere near the stats' you are quoting. :thumbs:

  4. Think you'll find it's not about giving poorer people laptops,it's all about keeping crime down aswell...

    The majority of people who commit crimes are poor/live on a council estate etc(i live on one...so don't bleat on..)

    If these people are on the internet,they can't be out vandalising,causing a nuisance,getting drunk etc

    Thus giving the police more time to stop motorists,and allowing the goverment to keep an eye on what people are upto...

    I know were talking about school age kids but these kids have too get older,it's part of growing up.

    If you think this a load of conspiracy theory rubbish,that is your opinion.But it's cheaper to give a kid a £500 laptop than the police have to deal with a minor crime..

    So if it stopped someone causing damage a couple of times a week..already cost effective....

    Simples

    Thanks for reading

    Over & out..

    Well stuff this sitting on my old pc................i'm off down to the local police station to tell them i have urges to rob some houses, hopefully i can get a new laptop out of this!!! :tongue2:

  5. i had a quick look through the countrymans weekly yesterday and started reading a write up what nimrod did .he was on about people who go out with a lamp and rifle, shooting foxes.what the fcuk has it got to do with him what other people do,if i want to go and have a piss in my back garden it's got nothing to do with anyone else.he probably wants to keep them for the hunt.

    Did he have a problem with it like? Gets my back up all this sh**e about if your not into something its wrong. :wallbash: Each to there own i say.

  6. THE RULES!!!!

     

     

     

    Probably a bit too much information here, also covers Rifles, but 1968 Firearms Act and Home Office Firearms Law Guidance to the Police, bit of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 as well!!

     

    If in any doubt..COPY/EDIT and carry with you!!

     

    ATB!!

     

     

     

     

    EXEMPTIONS FROM THE REQUIREMENT TO HOLD A CERTIFICATE

     

    1968 Firearms Act

     

    Shot guns

    6.14 Section 11(5) of the 1968 Act allows

    an individual, without holding a shot gun

    certificate, to borrow a shot gun from the

    occupier of private premises and use it on

    those premises in the occupier’s presence.

    The presence of the occupier is normally

    taken to mean within sight and earshot of the

    individual borrowing the firearm. The term

    “occupier†is not defined in the Firearms

    Acts, nor has a Court clarified its meaning.

    However, the Firearms Consultative

    Committee in their 5th Annual report

    recommended that the provisions of section

    27 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981

    be adopted. This states that ‘“occupier†in

    relation to any land, other than the foreshore,

    includes any person having any right of

    hunting, shooting, fishing or taking game or

    fish’. In the absence of any firm definition

    for firearms purposes, it is suggested that

    each chief officer of police may wish to make

    use of this definition. On some occasions

    though, where the status of a certificate

    holder acting as an occupier is an issue, the

    chief officer may need to consider seeking

    the advice of counsel. Section 57(4) provides

    that “premises†shall include any land. The

    borrower may be of any age but an offence

    may be committed under section 22(3) if a

    minor under the age of 15 is not supervised

    by a person over 21 years of age.

     

     

    6.15 Similarly, section 11(6) of the 1968 Act

    allows an individual, without holding a shot

    gun certificate, to use a shot gun at a time

    and place approved for shooting at artificial

    targets by the chief officer of police for the

    area in which that place is situated. As the

    approval of such time and place is prescribed

    by law and there may be duty of care issues

    involved, chief officers may wish not only

    to satisfy themselves that such events are

    properly conducted and supervised, but also

    to establish that there are no public safety

    issues involved. When an exemption is

    granted, the chief officer should advise

    the organiser that they are responsible for

    ensuring, so far as is practicable, that

    adequate precautions are taken for the safety

    of the participants and any spectators. Shoots

    at which participants hold certificates do not

    require an exemption under section 11(6).

    Organisers operating in conjunction with

    business, such as corporate entertainment,

    will have additional responsibilities under

    the Health and Safety at Work Act.

     

     

    Borrowed rifles on private premises

    6.16 Section 16(1) of the 1988 Act enables a

    person to borrow a rifle from the occupier

    of private premises and to use it on those

    premises in the presence of either the

    occupier or their servant without holding a

    firearm certificate in respect of that rifle. It

    should be noted that this gives slightly more

    flexibility in the use of a borrowed rifle than

    is permissible with the use of a shot gun

    as described in paragraph 6.14, in that the

    borrowed rifle can also be used in the

    presence of the servant of the occupier.

    However, the occupier and/or their servant

    must hold a firearm certificate in respect of

    the firearm being used, and the borrower,

    who must be accompanied by the certificate

    holder (whether it is the occupier or their

    servant), must comply with the conditions

    of the certificate. These may include a

    safekeeping requirement and, in some cases,

    territorial restrictions. Section 57(4) of the

    1968 Act defines “premises†as including any

    land. The effect of the provision is to allow

    a person visiting a private estate to borrow

    and use a rifle without a certificate. The

    exemption does not extend to persons under

    the age of 17 or to other types of firearm.

    There is no notification required on the

    loan of a firearm under these circumstances.

    A borrowed rifle should not be specifically

    identified as such on a “keeper’s†or

    “landowner’s†firearm certificate. The term

    “in the presence of†is not defined in law

    but is generally interpreted as being within

    sight and earshot.

    6.17 Section 16(2) of the 1988 Act provides

    for a person borrowing a rifle in accordance

    with section 16(1) of the 1988 Act to

    purchase or acquire ammunition for use in

    the rifle, and to have it in their possession

    during the period for which the rifle is

    borrowed, without holding a certificate. The

    borrower’s possession of the ammunition

    must comply with the conditions on the

    certificate of the person in whose presence

    they are and the amount of ammunition

    borrowed must not exceed that which the

    certificate holder is authorised to have in

    their possession at that time. It should be

    noted that the borrower may only take

    possession of the ammunition during the

    period of the loan of the rifle at which time

    they will be in the presence of the certificate

    holder. If the persons selling or handing

    over the ammunition are not certificate

    holders, it may be necessary for them to

    see the certificate to satisfy themselves that

    the terms of this section have been met and

    that the amount of ammunition the borrower

    wishes to acquire is no greater than that

    which the certificate holder is authorised

    to possess. However, the details of the

    transaction need not be recorded on

    the certificate.

    Cheers mate, al take a copy of that a post it through his door. :toast:

  7. This was covered on another forum not long ago: If you are the owner or occupier of the land then you can lend a gun (including FAC) to a non-license holder to use while in your presence (ie within sight and sound of them)

     

    Owner is obvious but occupier extends to include tenant farmers and anyone with shooting rights on the land so it doesn't have to be your land, you just need permission to shoot from the landowner. It would be a worthwhile courtesy in cases when you're not the landowner to have their permission to bring others onto their land to shoot but that's between you and the landowner, it's not covered by law.

    Thats the post i was hoping to see, thanks. I can now go back and tell the boy who told me i was in the wrong that he is slavering sh**e.

  8. Can anyone tell me for certain what the rule is on this......................If i take a friend on my land to shoot(standing beside me) and he uses my gun but he does not have a license have i broken the law. This has always been my understanding but i have been recently told that i am doing wrong. Is it the same all over the UK? Cheers.

  9. Just wondered who rents ground for horses on here. I have a 5 acre field that would be perfect for a few horses and i woulkd like to rent it out but i have no idea what a reasonable weekly/monthly charge would be. Any ideas anyone...?

  10. Always been a firm believer that a pup should be allowed to be a pup till a year old. Yes simple commands like sit, stay and fetch can be introduced fairly early and some dogs will pick up things alot quicker than others but doing to much to early on can be just as bad as not enough later. Got myself 2 17 week old labs at the moment and so far have been good as gold.

  11. Hi,

    Neighbour is banging on about some noise again. We have done everything to keep the dogs quiet and overall it has worked.

     

    Ocassionally the dogs bark, but that is dogs.

     

    Being this is a private house and there is only one complaintant does anyone know what can be legally done against me?

     

    Thanks

     

    Rich

    Alright mate, never had a problem with barking dogs myself but ma dad( who is a greyhound man) is forever getting barkers and whiners. He had 1 dog that barked where he soaked it or threatened it wi the brush but he managed to get it to stop by splitting up its feeding times too half a bowl of food twice a day instead of 1 big bowl. Worth a try mate, saves falling out wi the neighbours eh?

  12. If anyone on here has the unfortune to wake up in the middle of the night to burglars it must be a scary thing. If you then contact the police and they say that they cant come out unless a report of burgarly has been made then you should simply say "Ok officer thanks for your help, al just go and grab my gun and take a look for myself". They will be there quick as a flash. :thumbs:

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