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A good debate? You've called me ignorant for my views, that is not a debate that is you resorting to judgement of my character because you can't change my point of view. Now you're throwing names around and you know what the bible says about that don't you? Not once have I called you anything regardless. God didn't tell them to do that? Isn't the book of Deuteronomy God's covenant, the absolute display of what God says will happen if you disobey him and how not to disobey him, a formal agreement between God and his people? You're going to be put to death because of your views? Christi
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That doesn't cut the mustard at all!!! What you need to do is do what the bible instructs you to do under Gods commandments and if you don't then you're buggered. It tells you what to do with disobedient kids in Deuteronomy 21: 18-21 - If any man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father or his mother, and when they chastise him, he will not even listen to them, then his father and mother shall seize him, and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gateway of his home town. And they shall say to the elders of his city, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebelliou
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Why do I need to read the bible myself if I have been taught it, taught about it and made to read it from a very young age and it doesn't sit right with me? Please tell me how a Priest has made my mind up? Who would teach the Bible in schools Frazdog by the way? Who leads your sermons on a Sunday, carries out the service at mass and confirms you into the church?
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Now you see, this is the major issue for a lot of people. Nothing should be forced on anyone so why should we be teaching religion in schools if not all children are from religious families? Why are children mutilated at birth in the name of religion and then subjected to religious ceremony without their consent? Are your children not free to make their own decisions in life even if that means they go down a Buddhist route or they believe in evolution? Is your wife or partner not free to have their own beliefs? What about your parents, your siblings, your cousins, your neighbours?
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I don't get how I am ignorant. What am I ignorant of? What lusts are you on about? I went to two catholic schools, studied religion for 12 years whilst at school and listened to various folk speaking about the word of God and none of it sat with me, it just doesn't make sense to me just as "the natural order/evolution" doesn't make sense to you Yes, I can't state for a fact that I or anyone has seen a change in kind e.g. reptile to bird, but I also can't state for a fact that anyone has sat beside The Son of God or spoken with any form of God. I could safely say you haven't either. There a
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Does it matter if it's a change of kind or not? The birds in question might not have become iguana's or vice versa whilst he was on the islands but they have developed a variety of shaped beaks to exploit the natural resources on the island. You are adamant about seeing a change of kind but yet you don't question a guy that you've never met because he died nearly two thousand years ago, have only very distant written accounts of that are from 12 different people (you didn't hear your mate Ray Comfort say "Rotten" just before neighbour and we watched and listened to the same thing that anyo
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Quick question, if evolution or common ancestry is a faith or belief, does that mean that rabbit and hare are completely unrelated? Stoat, weasel and pole cat are completely unrelated? A vole, a mouse, a shrew, a black rat and a brown rat are all completely different from each other? Brown, black and polar bear are completely unrelated? A jack Russell and a border collie are completely unrelated? A white man, a black man, a Middle Eastern man, an aboriginal man and definitely a native first generation man are completely unrelated? An oak and a sycamore are just as different as a spruce and an
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I think you need to listen to it again, he definitely says "rotten neighbour". Of course it's faith, it happened over billions of years before humans were around an we learnt to document stuff but I find it more logical to believe than intelligent design.
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In another of his videos he is asked about stoning children to death in the bible and he says it doesn't yet it clearly does if you research it. He is then asked about two guys walking down the road and a group of kids insult them for being bald and God sends two she-bears to kill the children, he argues "Did it happen?", the guy who mentioned it says "I don't believe it happened" to which Ray responds "well if you don't believe it didn't happen then it didn't happen so don't get upset about it". Talk about making shit work for you when you want it to. He is better at answering a question by
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I did yes. He asks for an example of evolution he can see right now but when they can't give him one he doesn't give them an example of a example of God they can see right now either so it's by the by. He also states that the actions of the SS in World War II was evolution - survival of the fittest - which is way way way off the mark and makes him look like an idiot. The question about the person and the pet is "Your dog and your rotten neighbour are drowning in a pool which would you save?" He doesn't define what he means by "rotten". Has the neighbour murdered or are they just rotte
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That Ray Comfort is a bit of one sided person.
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My apologies guys if this doesn't sit right with you but I'm just ploughing my way through this - http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
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Ok, time for a little quiz. Here are three pictures of mammal embryos. One is a dolphin, one is a human and one is a cat. See if you can guess which is which. 1 2 3
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I'd be more interested in you posting a pic of this historical eye whiteness account of something along with a link to the peer reviewed papers by these renowned and respected historians. If macro doesn't exist then how come antibiotics are failing to cure viruses they once cleared up without problem?
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I never had one as a pup. Puppies always look really nice and adorable etc but having had one I know they're just a pi$$ing and shi!!ing production line and the circumstances for the last eight years haven't allowed me the time that pups need for toilet breaks etc so I go for dogs of 6months or older if I am keeping one as their control over the messy end is a lot better. Having to turn dogs around like that is rewarding, very rewarding, but you have to strip them right back and build a bond with them that allows them to rediscover what it is to be a dog again so the bond you do creat
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If that's how you want to term it, but then that implies god created us doesn't it? LOL My view would be it is actively controlling your evolution. Whether that's right or wrong is a different argument. So you don't believe there is a God then? So how do you explain..... Oh wait, hang on a minute :D I use the terminology as it's familiar to most but I know what you mean. I always get slightly worried though when we get involved in stuff as we have this amazing ability to blast on through for the end solution regardless of the consequence in most cases. As I said, we love a goo
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I've had a fair few pass through my door when I helped out a German Shepherd Rescue charity with training the dogs. They are the most noble and loyal of dogs. I was never asked to provide a nice warm bed for an elderly dog that would be no hassle and just wanted company, it was always dogs that were off their rockers. Had a proper beast of a thing that wouldn't let me get it out the car for when I'd picked it up before it was PTS. A great big GSD x Collie. I spent ages trying to get the bleeding thing out of the car with body language, treats and general words of encouragement. Finally man
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As a species we're fine, technology has only influenced us for a minute time scale. If you believe in evolution then you'll believe that 50-100 years is piss in the ocean on an evolutionary timescale. If our environment was changed by the loss of all science and tech we'd be back in a 'natural' (I hate that word) environment and be playing by the old set of selection rules again. People would be being selected by non technologically influenced factors as opposed to technologically influenced ones..... evolution goes on! .........as it is doing now. In 100k years thing may be very different
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Evolution theory doesn't predict de-evolution as such to my interpretation. We continue to evolve as all living life does. The only difference is that we have changed our environment with the use of technology. Different genetic factors are now selected as 'fittest'. It's a unique situation where technology forms part of our environment and where as a species we have control to change our environment and so our evolution. Perhaps not intelligently or in a planned fashion though. Our survival will probably become more dependant on managing our environment to suit our genetics as opposed to adap
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With the aid of modern medicine and medical advancements we are in fact de-evolving as a species, a simple truth. Have we reached the pinnacle of the human race? Possibly.
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So how does the adaptations we are seeing in viruses and pests stand with Creationists? Antibiotics, due to their widespread use are causing strains of viruses to become resilient to them and new research is continually having to be done to combat the new strains of viruses as well as the ones that have built up a tolerance to the in-market antibiotics. We have seen numerous new life threatening viruses evolve through various practices in the world from animal husbandry to contact with new species that are causing fatalities around the world. The ease of human travel as well as animal sp
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Aye. You often find them on streets in town centres trying to force their leaflets into your hands, shouting crap from textbooks, all scrapping over who's quantum theory is the best, knocking on your day every weekend and asking if you've found the periodic table or turning any disused building into a place of research. Right arrogant b*****ds aren't they? GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! That growl sounds mean haha but I do agree with your post arrogant b*****ds atheists are Don't get me started!! One knocked on my door the other weekend right when I was just about to read the story of Moses to the
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Aye. You often find them on streets in town centres trying to force their leaflets into your hands, shouting crap from textbooks, all scrapping over who's quantum theory is the best, knocking on your door every weekend and asking if you've found the periodic table or turning any disused building into a place of research. Right arrogant b*****ds aren't they? GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!
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I am guessing that when you go to heaven Frazdog you will be able to clearly identify Adam and Eve from all the millions of other people wandering about, it shouldn't be too hard.
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So we were only hunter gatherers after the flood? Can I take a wild stab in the dark here, do you think archaeopteryx is one of the dragons in the bible? How did all of the animals in the world know to go to Noah and how did they get there across vast oceans such as Bison, Prong Horn, Koala, Kangeroo, Penguins, Sloths? How come the native people of various continents have not heard of Jesus and the Trinity if all the animals had in order to escape the flood? Why weren't these remote and lost civilizations wiped out by the flood or at least have an understanding of who Noah is as t
