ok im talking about 1st cross deerhounds ,a mix between 1 greyhound and 1 deerhound ,nothing else in the mix,and ive seen plenty years back,they were not rubbish,all im saying is there were faster more agile dogs out there than them,plus the ground and electric fences played a big part in their running style,and we were mostly on hares at the time,with the odd fox thrown in,and if you read what i wrote ,once their mixed again with another type lurcher they then become a very good all rounder at times ,hell I like the deerhound x ,i just find other stuff more suitable for what i want ,no doubt