First things first thanks for the response and advice,I wanted the traditional way like my uncle use to do but the missus wanted growing plots that's why I asked on here,looking at the pics you guys know your stuff seriously,I think we will clear plot and gave a look at what we are dealing with but again guys thanks for advice and pics they was very hopeful....we are down there tomorrow tidying up so when it's done I'll get a few pics,thanks again lads?