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Have you tried asking your butcher for off-cuts (high fat, which really helps keep them in good condition if working all day everyday), pigs heads, lamb bones etc you might be surprised how much they chuck out.. Do you eat/sell everything the lurchers catch, or can you spare a bit for them, maybe you just use them for vermin control (rats etc)?
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Type 'Bull Whippet' into the search bar at top of screen. You will get lots of info!
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, could have easily lost an eye that time..
Ive seen many cuts and bites near the eyes on a dog, even into the socket, but funny enough, its very rare for a dog to loose an eye from regular fox work in my opinion. Ive only seen one terrier that lost an eye out of many hard working dogs.
Most fox bite wounds are just minor punctures, and if the dog is treated properly and given time to heal, it can get right back at them!
Other than that, the injuries you will see go hand in hand with running a dog, no matter what the quarry species.
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Hi Kevin, I understand where your coming from now. I hunt in a different way. I have a German pointer that I free-hunted alongside lurchers very successfully.
The more you hunt them with lurchers the less steady the point will become on fur. I broke all my dogs to feather so that I can still have steady gun-dogs to hunt birds with. The pointer will still find and stalk fur, and the other dogs know to head in her direction as soon as she starts to stalk or she will jump it herself. The pointer will join in the chase. I think most pointers would really want to join in the course, so your main issue would be retaining steadiness to hares.
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Why cant your lurchers find their own?
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Hope you got it bud, the rabbit
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good job, and very good fun!
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Good stuff Owain and Sky! Nice video clips too.
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Ive heard it called coon-dog paralysis. Its not common, only affecting a small amount of dogs, in severe cases it can cause paralysis and death ( or disabled), but usually after several weeks the dog recovers, so im told.
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Ive had some fun treeing coons in Canada with my lurcher and pointer, they seem abundant over there! They often live well above ground level in hollow trees, so lamping is a good method, they are easy to bait in with feeders soaked wheat/maize works well as bait. Quite good fun to track them with the dogs as they wont run like a fox will, soon up a tree or in a den.
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Fairy, if your stuck with something, or need advice, private message a member on here, instead of asking loads of questions on the thread. Nothing against you, but its detracting from the original topic. Cheers
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Good stuff, and hats off for taking the gundog, sounds like it was a good helper
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I worked some rock piles regularly with past terriers, the worst that happened was a 3 day stint in a crag hole for a hardish dog. Plenty of bad rock piles about, and crags and cliff holes, we always avoided mines, but we got to know the regular ones well enough to feel fairly confident.
Rock holes have been very productive over the years up here DnN remember that day in the quarry. Brock was in there 48 hours. 60% of the holes round here are rock. Over the years they've probably been some of the most productive holes ive worked.
Yep remember that!...Like you say we would see way less foxes if we walked past all the rocky spots.
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heres some i found last week,and in the area theres tons more
who in gods name would be crazy enough to stick a dog in these spots.maybe a dog that'll walk out after a half hour might be wortha gamble but not anything else
A little local knowledge helps you avoid dangerous places that have lost terriers in the past... but those look no worse than many of the crag holes we work up north here.
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Dogs used for flushing fox to the gun might catch before he makes it to the gun. Your intention was to shoot the fox first, so your within the law as you did everything you could.
If your hunting rabbits and the a fox is put up and pursued, and heaven forbid, killed by the dogs, its a pure accident obviously, thats the nature of nature... we cant possibly know whats in every patch of cover can we. But we should do all in our power to avoid such things happening, and set off with the best intentions to carry out a safe hunt within the law. It really helps if you know the law though!
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The gun can be replaced by a bird of prey. Ive never seen anyone flushing foxes with dogs towards a sparrow hawk, but its legal Im sure.
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I worked some rock piles regularly with past terriers, the worst that happened was a 3 day stint in a crag hole for a hardish dog. Plenty of bad rock piles about, and crags and cliff holes, we always avoided mines, but we got to know the regular ones well enough to feel fairly confident.
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Hi Cwn Hela, its great to see others who keep their own stock for several generations, and still going strong. Good on you. DnN
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Fox only legal for the protection of game birds.Your confusing with terrierwork mate, as you can use up to two dogs to bush/flush/hunt fox legally to the gun or bird of prey, in England and Wales. Theres no limit on the number of dogs used in Scotland. Also accidents can happen when your bushing rabbits, or hunting cover, or exercising, or training etc.
Using terriers to ground is only for protection of game birds in England/Wales, but in Scotland you can protect any livestock! Still, the aim is bolting to the gun. A dig is just to rescue the terrier!!
Good hunting
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Theres a few up by me too in Scotland, Id like to think that, once established in sustainable numbers, we could have a limited trapping season, but lets face it, that aint going to happen in the UK is it! Though at some point they will cause big trouble.
In Canada, any water beavers frequent is classed as unsafe to drink. This is due to Giardiasis (beaver fever). Its a protozoan infection, that can make you quite ill.
Beaver activity in UK
Good hunting
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The Vila was top notch. It had big gates we could lock, a garden for dogs to mess about in, a balcony, a decent kitchen, good lounge and comfy beds.
One thing - if it's hot as hell in October is the scent going to be shite in those dusty hills?
Is the scent ever good in them hills? It was hot and dry in January lol... (I was there in July and had a nice fox hunt)
If we go later in season we will all need to renew our insurance and licenses.
Also got a trip planned for eastern Europe later that season, terrierwork and boar hunt.
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Beauties them mate... I still havnt stuck a boar with my boar knife, it has seen some action though!
For anyone who is tempted with one of these awesome handmade products, I can say hand on heart, they are strong, and built to last. Im hard on my tools, and Ive now got 3 assorted knives from midnight all withstand my abuse day after day. I am now pretty good at keeping an edge on them too, I actually enjoy looking after them, as they serve me so well.
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Ive seen a member off heres Beddy whippet catch all sorts, we go into Europe hunting too and Ive seen it catch wild boar, badger, fox etc, all legal pest control where it was done... was better on this sort of game than it was for bunnies back in the UK! No shit it would be straight on the face of the boar like a limpet! Superb temperament too. Dogs long gone now though RIP Clyde
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For €20 per night, the villa had everything you would want, and they were ok with the dogs...plus wild camping is outlawed in Aragon! there is a campsite but its not much cheaper, ive stayed a night there. Originally I wanted to set up a wild camp, but was not possible.
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I usually find brown hares in more open land, where a pointer is about the best type of dog to locate them, they take wide sweeps quartering the land using the wind as well as ground scent, they wont rush in, they let you know where it is, and they very quickly get good at finding anything you regularly hunt. Ive seen one or two decent terrier and bushing dog that learnt how to quickly find hares over bigger fields and fells, but they will usually flush it as soon as their legs can get them to it. A good lurcher will cotton on though.
Have you got any closer to finding a pup?