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Just been thinking would an English pointer not be a better cross to a greyhound than a gwp as it would be a bit more leggy did anyone ever try one of is it coat why people go for the gwp like i said its just a thought atb bob
As an all round dog, I doubt an English pointer would be half the dog a decent gwp is........people are using gwp's because they can be an awesome hunting dog with a tough, robust nature & physique....
I think an English cross could be great, and as a wide hunting dog would probably have the edge over a gwp cross in my opinion, but not as easy to train and handle, and not as versatile in general, based on my experience.
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Im toying with the idea of putting something fast/big/hard etc on my gwp, the bitch has made the grade on quarry from birds, to hares, good hunt, point and retrieve, stalking and bloodtrailing, foxing, bushing rabbits, and some boar hunting. She is one the best hunting dogs Ive had, and the most versatile. It would have to be some dog though, and fast, but I could never put a greyhound over her, as Id need better endurance and better feet/coat in the pups.
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All the best with them Bud, wish I had the room for one but not at the min...
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Nice to see your enjoying him MIK. I dont want to be without one again, fantastic breed, and so so versatile! All the best with him, he looks great!
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Its a start mate, hope he has his uses for you!
I'll give you a call Lee! Not breeding midge, gonna get a couple more seasons out of her, she eats up all the work I throw her way.
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Ow, let me know if he makes it or not, we could send you a pup down from here next year or so
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It all comes down to how they hold up when worked hard I guess.
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Nice work!
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If the dogs does what its serpose too..the feet shouldn't come in to it..flat feet don't look pretty but looks don't kill.heart does..
Not really mate, if the feet are too weak from the general use of pure greyhound blood in most crosses, they will snap like twigs if that dog uses even half the heart that it should have. And a dog with shitty feet is fecking useless even with the heart of a lion. Mine had decent feet for his type, but line breeding helps keep some things right, and there are bull/greys out there with decent feet for sure.
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I always aim to get them stock trained to a high standard, poultry too if you can...you will always stay on the farmers good books if he see's sensible dogs around the sheep etc
Edited at add: Also use opportunities to train them which game is off menu. And if I found a way to get them on fox scent that was 100% a fox, then I would cast them onto that line, and from young scent drags can work wonders as they start to recognise your commands, and casting them onto the real thing is then fairly easy when the time comes.
But like others have said, if you have access to hounds that work fox, you have a guaranteed way of getting them hunting the right stuff. Totally agree with that and Id take that option myself if it was available. Good luck with them, if you put the work in a small pack will be lots of fun, and good pest control service
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Beaut of a dog that coverdogs.
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Aye nice to see the elusive lurcher of yours Willow!
would i say shes a good bushing lurcher NO to full on never in the right spot at the right times most of the time in the cover
008.JPGI'd tend to agree with you in principle Willow, about being all over the place and never in the right place, but my best catcher is the same: full on, busy, crawls into brambles alongside the terriers, yet she still manages to catch the majority of rabbits we catch, purely because she wants it so badly and has learned the art of being in more than one place at once
my mate has a collie x bitch that is allways on the out side as the rabbits come out on them this thing i have has to come throu the cover and then try and get on them
but on the lamp /ferreting carnt fault her she can catch for fun so my choice is to put a collie x dog over
Sounds keen, has she got terrier in her? I know what you mean mate my old dog was the same loved to do the beating rather than the standing waiting... like the idea of a collie x over her, should add that bit of brains to think ahead and get in the right spot to intercept, good luck anyway matey
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Aye nice to see the elusive lurcher of yours Willow!
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I was worried about carbon steel rusting etc but thats not the case, mine now have a lovely patina and I never wash them, the greese from regular use on carcasses and the acid from chopping food keeps them tip top dark and rust free.
Im sure midnight can do it for you anyway, as he did with the BIG custom knife he made up for me, im sure he has an acid dip or something to add the patina, anyway its perfect and wont rust.
I was shite at sharpening knives before I got these, now I love giving them a quick rub with the stone now and then, they keep an evil edge.
He makes a very good general purpose knife called the fieldcrafter, which Ive put through its paces, killed/skinned loads of deer with it, chopped logs with it hitting it with another log lol like I say Im a bad tool owner, I usually brake things fast!
But I cant brake these things they are made for feckers like me. Or he will make you something to your specs.
He's not f***ing paying me to say this I swear, but as you can tell Im a fan of quality gear and these are just that. Good, honest, handmade, VERY tough knives!!
All the best
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Check out midnight on here... Ive had 3 various knives off him, and Im not kidding they are built to last a lifetime... Im rough on tools but these knives cope easily, easy to keep sharp etc.. he would also make you a custom knife to your requirements.
Great craftsmanship, and great service.
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Love 'em, always puts a smile on the face lifting a funky mole!
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A one man team has to stick to the shallow spots simple as that.
Id need a LOT of shallow spots, to keep even 2 terriers busy for a season... thing is a lot of shallow spots up here can still take you 3/4 hours of real toil to get through layer of sandstone, or compact minerals. Then you try all the shallow spots again later and they are empty, so, being keen you drop in a bigger spot... and then look at the knocker box and think... oh f**k. Its all part of the game to me, nightmares become the dreams mate hahaa
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Do any lads on here go digging on your own or do you always take someone to help I just ask cus I've bin goin on mi own and find it hellish hard work even thinking of packing in how do you terrier men go on ?
I go alone a lot,especially in years gone by... not really preferable, though preferable than not going for a dig if your terrier is ready for action then you must provide action, right?... you get to know places that are not too hard...but you go through the mill of proper slogs, long into the night, Ive left digs and gone back next morning to carry on... had some awful gruelling digs on my own absolute hell at the time... best bet is to have mates that you can call up if you get into a long hauler. You also find yourself trudging miles back to the motor for a pick axe, or a saw, or food or a torch lol but funny enough I got there in the end, each time, sometimes help arrives, sometimes not. They stick in the brain for years the bad ones!
I never once thought about giving up! Maybe its not for you? I always got a real sense of achievement when I finally got home and washed the dog down and got some feed into us both. I do it for the dogs! What happened that made you want to quit if you dont mind me asking?
All the best
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Not just the last poster but i never knew the terrier was in such deep shit these days .Seems to be a growing trend of jackers that own terriers ,the tyke dosnt stand a chance .Two ends of the spectrum breeding for opposites .So glad ive seen the best years TBH.
The best years are there to be had for anyone with the sense to live them mate, lifes what you make it, we wont be dragged down to their level, not real terrier lads. Proper terriers are here to stay mate dont worry bout that!
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What a load of rubbish, this thread lol bolter vs digging... never read so much crap!
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It seems to get said over and over again on here... Gun-dog crosses make great lurchers! ... I agree! No matter which breed... the spaniels, lab/retriever, pointer/setter etc... they seem to gel very well into a lurcher or hunting cross, dont they. Each type offering their unique traits that seem to pass-on well.
Im also not one to ever own a pure Labrador (at least at present), but Ive seen too many good crosses to ignore the fact that they do cross very well into many types of hunting dog.
Id love to see some more pics of Labrador lurchers if anyone has any?
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Just a quick question guys..are you REALLY happy with your running dog/s? All of mine have flaws which would likely see them put on the dog merry go round at best or culled I dare say..maybe as I'm ageing I've come to terms and accept their misdemeanors for when I was younger I couldn't and wouldn't tolerate what I do to an extent these days..how about you guys,what or what not is acceptable or a definite no no when it comes to keeping a lurcher?
I usually find the specialist owners who only hunt one species, will be more likely to discard/cull a dog that doesn't excel in that particular pursuit (fair enough), but folk that hunt owt might be more inclined to work with the dogs strengths as long as it has something useful to offer. This means changing your outlook of this dog and they way you might have planned to work it, and some folk might not be willing to do that.
For instance, who would buy a bull cross for a hunting dog? For casting out over open hill or forest to locate, and catch or mark-in vermin for pest control. I didnt, I got one for lamping foxes, which he was great at (this was Pre-Ban) But, he was a born hunter, so I utilised him for this job and had 8 good seasons trying to keep up with him!
I could go on about all the old and new dogs, all had good and bad points or strengths and weaknesses.
I wouldnt keep a dog that lacked heart, I at least want dogs that are KEEN, this is essential to me. I also found that the good ones are showing good signs much younger, I like to see instinct coming through naturally, I dont want to have to 'train' any dog to work, they either want to or not.
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Should you or shouldn't you?
I have a 7 year old jrt x whippet who has proved himself to me time and again. Ideally I would like to clone him but failing that I'd like to breed him to a bitch of the same type and calibre aiming to get a very similar type of dog.
Is this a good idea or am I likely to end up with throw backs?
Id guess finding a bitch that is up to his standard is going to be the hard part, the dog is very good by all accounts. Breeding is a gambol, he might not throw himself, he might, only one way to find out.
Keep us posted though mate
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Greman Pointer X Greyhound
in Lurchers & Running Dogs
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Ive been without a lurcher for a bit now Roybo. If I still had him, Id be tempted... but with hindsight, I could find a better dog... he had a thin coat, and greyhound feet, and I know I need great feet on my dogs thesedays. Seen a really good dog was coursing blood with bull in him.... or I could wait and put her to a staghound on the other side of the pond.
I agree accip, more versatile than the english, and like you also said, robust in physique and nature.