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  1. 3 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

    No im not correlating it with slavery , im saying that the physical attributes of Africa American athletes is a by product and legacy of selective breeding 

     

    It's not though is it, that's not selective breeding, that's circumstantial breeding. As Charts and I pointed out, the environment is the biggest factor. You give the people of Africa the same upbringing and they would succeed in any sports in the US.

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  2. 1 minute ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

    Easy 

    a certain area in Kenya aligns with the culture , eugenics and altitude 

    this is too simple mate 

    So, nothing to do with slavery which you were implying? And what has natural biological traits got to do with selective breeding?

  3. Just now, mushroom said:

    Come on FFS please just one thread with no bullshit. No one being a dick (me included).

    I just want to know and I'm interested in others experiences and tools used to trace family.

     

    Yes, they are a good tool for tracing family members, current and past.

  4. 1 minute ago, WILF said:

    I don’t know as much about it as you obviously do so I couldn’t say. 

    Well that's the case, they are very handy for finding a lost relative, but as for ancient ancestry, they are merely stating the obvious.

     

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  5. 8 minutes ago, WILF said:

    Mine was 60 % English and narrowed to an extremely small geographical area that I, and as far as I can trace the rest of my family, have lived in since day dot.

    Which is stating the bleeding obvious. If your family had lived in an area then it's clear that your genetic markers will mostly resemble those in that area. Remember, these results are only going off those that have had the same test as well.

  6. 1 minute ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

    Perfectly eugenically aligned to the sport though

    as a former sprinting legend you should know this 

    no amount of training is going to make up for that 

    too easy lol 

    You are wrongly correlating it with slavery though, so, all these African middle distance runners, explain? 

  7. 6 minutes ago, mushroom said:

    I've done the old records way too.

    Yet still DNA doesn't lie. I have very few European (Germanic, Latin, Nordic etc) or Scottish markers.

    Please explain why you think originally I would have that blood and why it's recent?

    Let's keep this an intelligent and amicable conversation please ;)

     

     

    You need to read up on it, seriously. So you are claiming to be mainly of Celtic blood, where do you think they originated? And it doesn't even matter really as around 4500 years ago, before the Celts, almost all the entirety of Europe, including Britain, had nigh on a full population replacement by people's from the Steppes. 

  8. 4 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

    So by that you can take a child from a Malawian orphanage at 6 months old and he can be a linebacker for the Baltimore ravens once of age ? 

    That’s all it takes ? 

    No, just like Bolt wouldn't have been the fastest man in history if he never put on a pair of spikes and trained.

  9. 1 minute ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

    Yeah and what’s his background ??

    It wasn't through slavery and selective breeding was it? Have you not seen some of the places in Africa where the men are natural specimens?

  10. 16 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

    The physical attributes of nfl players and nba players are most advantageously going in African Americans 

    they aren’t in the main found in Africans 

    why is that ? 
     

    You mean physical attributes created by nutrition, medicine, exercise, etc. It wasn't so long back we had a UFC HW champion born and bred in Africa.

  11. 2 minutes ago, mushroom said:

    Good point and hopefully you know the history (Brian, Welsh safe harbour etc) but DNA doesn't lie. I have less than 2% markers from both combined. 

    You are talking about your recent genetic history which is obvious as your recent ancestors are from the British isles. I've had the test done about ten years back and they have their uses, but as far as your ancient ancestry, it just points out the obvious.

  12. 31 minutes ago, mushroom said:

    Just doing a bit of this, started with my mum's side. I always thought that all my grandparents were pure north west England, Wales and Ireland. The DNA test was pretty clear on that, with NWE, Wales and Ireland markers only. Nothing Germanic or Nordic.

    Just traced back and both sides of my mum's line (grandad was Welsh and spoke it) ultimately all come from County Cork and Kildare. Earliest I've got so far is 1786. Bloody interesting. I'm gonna start on my dad's side soon but like I said, with the DNA results it's likely no different.

    This all started because I wanted to look into my granddad's war history (born in 1906). I've photos of his paybook etc and it took me right down a warren lol.

    Anyone else done this? How far did you get back and what tools did you use?

     

    You do know that you are of German or Nordic ancestry by default if you are of Welsh & Irish descent?

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  13. 1 minute ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

    But they were though !!! For hundreds of years in the slave trade . Thats why you don’t see nba players or linebackers walking around in Zambia or the drc randomly 

    That's just a half truth isn't it?  You're talking as though they were selectively chosen because of their physical traits and then selectivity bred when the truth is they were just exploited people that happened to be enslaved. Why would you see linebackers in Zambia, I didnt know the NFL was in Africa?

  14. 1 hour ago, gnasher16 said:

    You are clearly not understanding the basic difference between genetics in terms of raw material at a cellular level how traits are passed through genes within the science of heredity.....and genetic influence regards how that material shapes who we are and how it contributes to variations in particular observable traits, how its measured through statistical analysis of trait variations etc.

    The dog analogy obviously went straight over your head being a clear example of inherent behavioural traits and the extent to which a trait is influenced by genetic behaviour outside molecular or cellular level....exactly as it does with culture.....yes of course your Japanese boy could be raised in a culture which is not biologically his own but he is instinctively closer naturally to his own culture via genetic inheritance.....genes and cultures are connected streams of inheritance that shape human behaviour and cultural development.

    What you are throwing in there with a Japanese boy raised in a Norwegian culture is just basic nature versus nurture which is something the left have always used to manipulate language......the far left are at war with reality because reality produces unequal outcomes....its how they got the different sex and gender wedge through the door to where in their eyes gender is now " optional "......and likewise they do it with race,race is unalterable you cant " become " British for instance....yet they will persist with their silly word play strategies in order to get their own way enabling a " anyone can be anything " theory that protects their globalist multicultural agenda.

    Fortunately it doesnt matter if you/they believe or even acknowledge it as you are simply forced to accept it in the same way that i am forced to accept gravity.

    Politely you are just waffling now, again, you're confusing biological inheritance with cultural inheritance. Genes pass on biological traits, culture is passed on through society, not DNA. There's no such thing as a British gene that instinctually pulls us towards drinking tea, just like there's no Japanese gene that makes them obsessed with sumo wrestling lol.

    The lurcher analogy didn't go over my head, I saw it for the flawed reasoning that it still is. Again, a lurcher and many other breeds are selectivity bred for behavioural and/or physical traits. Humans are not dog breeds, we are not selectivity bred for behavioural traits or physical traits.

    So, another flawed idea of yours that isn't at all based in science is the false assumption that culture is governed by genetics, if it was tied to your DNA then your Japanese boy raised in Norway by Norwegian parents would still adopt the Japanese way of life when in reality he wouldn't.

    This is nothing to do with left vs right, it's about evidence not assumptions.

     

  15. 1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

    Top.half about right but legs lik3 women's to.mine 

    We went on the heaviest bag we can  find ill fold it every shot we can try for the  craic better than a pad vid lol hah

    Reyt Cleggy arcades tomorrow and we will settle this on the punch machine, let mi just iron mi Slazenger vest and I'll be there!

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