You ever seen the state of overly hard pig dogs, let's just say you can't take them for a walk in public or else you'll be getting lifted before you get back home. An older mate had an awesome dog bought in from a Welsh bloke, proper pig dog, bred some real uns out of it, big fella terrier type, it got out the kennel and he wouldn't even dare ask any dogs homes if someone had handed it in, he was gutted but what can you do.