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Looking at old Rip he had plenty Curr dog in him. I think both Rip and Nipper had fairly dominant genes. I would think there are very few Curr dogs left in Cumbria now and to tell the truth I am only guessing and picking from what I can remember talking to Victor (or simply Minshaw) as he was known. Victors full name is "Victor Sproat Minshaw" quite a mouthful.
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Thanks Giro. I have been out of the game for 35 years since the late seventies/ eighties. I am sure things have changed a lot since then. I saw some of the best and so called best dogs run who were doing the rounds at the time, I didn't really like the numbers game but at the time you had no choice but to join in.
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I can only go off what I have seen and that was Nipper the sire of Blue. It depends what you mean by quitters. I have seen Nipper turn off rabbits at night that he could have caught. Was he plain lazy? was he conserving his energy, maybe he knew he was going to have a long night (he usually did). During the day it got to the stage where he refused to jump, but he could jump 5 bar gates with ease. Nipper was a very complicated dog if he had not been in the hands of Victor I am sure he would not have been the same animal. When lamping He was never on a lead and Victor could stop him cha
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Are you sure Im'Slippy as that would mean Blue had mated his mother. Do you mean Nipper and Darkie? if so it would be a full brother to Blue.
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To my knowledge Rip only sired one litter as did Nipper. I may be wrong, I cant speak of Blue, as he was only a pup when I lost touch with Victor. My main interest was daytime. If Victor had ever put Nipper to a pure greyhound I would have had one of the pups in a blink.
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I can only go off what I have seen and that was Nipper the sire of Blue. It depends what you mean by quitters. I have seen Nipper turn off rabbits at night that he could have caught. Was he plain lazy? was he conserving his energy, maybe he knew he was going to have a long night (he usually did). During the day it got to the stage where he refused to jump, but he could jump 5 bar gates with ease. Nipper was a very complicated dog if he had not been in the hands of Victor I am sure he would not have been the same animal. When lamping He was never on a lead and Victor could stop him cha
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No most defiantly not collie x. They may have had some cur dog in them somewhere and some terrier blood. In them days almost all of the racing whippets had some terrier blood in them. Victor told me he couldn't leave old rip in the house or a kennel it could not tolerate being locked up and would wreck the place tearing curtains down and eating anything wooden. Old Rip looked like a mongrel. Nipper was slightly more refined but would never win a handsome dog contest. He was as rough as the roads.
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I haven't kept lurchers now for over 30 years. If it was back then and in a perfect situation I would breed lurcher x lurcher with no care as to the mix as long as the pairing was suitable. Probably an all out lamper put to an all out speedy daytime dog. In this perfect situation both parents would be at the top of their game and I would have pick of the litter when they were 3-4 months old to get some idea of what I would get. Hopefully a good all rounder.
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This is my first post on this forum. Like some of the other lads who have posted I spent many nights out with Victor. As for the Minshaw breeding I can confirm Rip the old dog was bred from a racing whippet called Rag Lad. Rip was the sire of Nipper (don't know who the dam was). Nipper was the sire of Blue to Rodney Jacksons Darkie. My mate had Blues litter brother who made a magnificent dog but was never worked, I think some travellers bought him at around 13 month old. I only saw Darkie work on a handfull of occasion (day time) from memory it was on Carlisle Airport, she was fast enoug
