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Have had a couple big diggin dogs. Chainsaw R.I.P. 16in and 25lbs and spannable Jagdterrier Haunter retired at 10yrs old, drive to get anywhere and has suffocated himself diggin on groundhogs trying to get in to draw. 13in 20lbs and not spannable, but flexible. On right Smiling for the camera

I have my thoughts on what constitutes which, but seeing as I'm just a dumb yank, what do you on the other side of the pond consider the turning point in Brian's types? Explain difference in size, what key breedings were of the old type and new type, hunt style difference, etc. Put some reasoning behind it. Post up a pic of the old type vs. a new Nuttall terrier. Looking forward to see what "we" all think here. rolly

Great post Zagman.

The pics of the dogs were used without the owner's permission. I know the owner from another board and he said he definitely DID NOT give permission to post them. He does want them removed. Adeyhawk did ask permission, but only after they were posted. Rolly

I hope you didn't take it like I start digging with pups at 6months old....I was saying I'd RATHER see a dog that WANTS to start at 6 months, and have to HOLD them back, than wait forever to see if they have a digging bone in their body. I give pups plenty of time to mature and they go when they are ready, but I won't wait forever. I agree that starting them off digging at 6 months is TOO early. Nate

The working airedale in the US is more common than the working irish. And NO, you did NOT get permission from the owner of those irishes and pics. I asked him......

i,ll tellyou why rolly, far too many dicks, set on breeding crap, i love me borders, they can take their time comiing on and a lot of lads these days dont have the patience . fortunately there are the chosen few who keep and work the little otter heads, and long mat they reign. I hope those few, continue on with breeding more good workers. Good lookin dogs all. So some are saying they take a bit to come on others are say they will go earlier. When do they generally turn on? I know personally, I'd much rather have a dog, regardless of breed, wanting to go at 6months, and have to

Agree with allgame, different sizes for different jobs. I prefer larger dogs for the larger game I hunt. Coons with a 11in 12lb dog, drag them down the hole and eat them. Hunted with a 8lb probably 10in patt male on coon once. He is a nutria killer, but on small (15-20lb) coon, a bayer type, probably good for his survival. I need dogs that can put on enough pressure to move the critters. Not getting into the hard vs. soft debate, but a small hard dog won't last too many seasons on 30lb coon. I prefer dogs with enough lead in the ass to get the job done. My small dogs are 13in 15-16lbs. Too big

Why isn't there more working borders out there. I mean if they are keen to their jobs like the others, why so few. Look like good working coats and strong heads on most of them. Just a yank looking for answers. You don't see any here. rolly

Adeyhawk is right. The traps are attached to a log or grapple and the coyotes are allowed to drag it to cover. Much like bloodtrailing with other breeds, he uses them to find caught yotes and prevents losses. Binos could work, but so does working cattle with an ATV or shooting hogs over bait, much more enjoyable to spend time in the outdoors with a good working dog. Adeyhawk, I hope the owner of the dog knows you are putting up his pics here. I know I wouldn't want somebody posting pics of my dogs without my permission, especially with me in the pics.......

Daragoi, you forget Alaska is part of the US and wolves are legal to hunt there. Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, and Colorado don't have half the wolves Minnesota has in just it's upper NE corner, COMBINED. Then let's not forget Wisconsin and Michigan which also have huge numbers of wolves. Anyhow, I didn't know if anybody used wolf-dogs for wolves anywhere it's still legal. I don't think they will let them use dogs on them here in the lower 48. Too many tree huggers. Besides, I don't know anybody who would use regular hounds as they regularly get killed on bear chases by wolves. That's why I'm wonde

I'll check it out, but any "real hunting" wolf hounds left?

Anybody know the last time a "wolfhound" was used on wolves? Irish, Russian, Borzoi (I think)??? Anybody using sighthounds today on them? I know they are legal to hunt in certain areas of the world, not in my neck of the woods, but curious how it was done before and why it isn't heard of today (if it still is done....legally of course).

Same stuff here. Last week down to around 42F and today high of 83F. 60's next week with lows in the 40's.

I like stripper names. I've got or had: Puss, Cooter, Kimber, Lou, Magic, and not a stripper name but 'The Reverend Jesse Jackson" (I hated the dog).