Bisley superfeild

[Sterry 0]

I was wondering if anyones used these before?

 

as i cant quite make my mind up on them, does the slight hollow point really allow then to expand much and does it reduce accuracy. atm im using accupells and tin before was AA diablo, both in .22 and i dont have much faith in hollow points as they just seem to fly anywhere.

[poacher3161 1,766]

[bANNED TEXT] i used to do a lot of roost shooting[pheasents not no more]these pellets after a lot of tests with others wer in a class of their own and i would not consider any other pellet but i can onley comment on their use on feather atvb

[Guest buster321c]

Which gun you using ?? and calibre ?

[Sterry 0]

well i've got a RWS excalibre (pcp) and a BSA lightning both in .22, the RWS is the one i use most and for longer range shots, the BSA is bit like a "spare" gun but would use it for close range stuff or maybe from a hide.

[Guest buster321c]

Ive just posted a list of `Which pellet , which gun ` not sure if they are on it , but will give you an idea of the ones `mostly `used

[ty21 0]

yeah i like them, they kill well but they are very deer for the amount, but other then that very good

[Guest Scuba1]

At sub 12ftlbs shot placement is a lot more important then expansion. As we should always try to go for a head shot, it does not really matter, if a pellet expands or not, the important thing is to hit the target. I use AA fields in my gun as they are the must accurate in it. They play hell with a pigeons head and I don't care if they expand or not. Rather hit what I am after in the right place then having a pellet expand nicely on a branch of a tree.

JMHO

 

Happy hunting

 

Michael

[tynoprime 0]

At sub 12ftlbs shot placement is a lot more important then expansion. As we should always try to go for a head shot, it does not really matter, if a pellet expands or not, the important thing is to hit the target.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

I use AA fields and Bisley Pest Control, not for the expansion but simply because in my rifle they're so accurate.

 

Try as many as you can, different guns really do take likings to different pellets, so it's trial and error really.

Edited April 22, 2009 by tynoprime

[youngo 20]

Used to use these in my weirauch hw100 before I sold it, and have to say i was very happy with them, found them very accurate. Mostly used on rabbits but took all manner of quarry with them

[Sterry 0]

cheers guys. i know accuracy is paramount but recently for some reason or other i've been clumping the bunnies just below the skull in the neck ,which mean the do just have enough to kick about abit, and im after as little suffering as can be possibly done, i also thought that a little expansion coupled with accuracy cant be a bad thing. i use accupells which dont seem to expand or deform much.

[Guest Scuba1]

cheers guys. i know accuracy is paramount but recently for some reason or other i've been clumping the bunnies just below the skull in the neck ,which mean the do just have enough to kick about abit, and im after as little suffering as can be possibly done, i also thought that a little expansion coupled with accuracy cant be a bad thing. i use accupells which dont seem to expand or deform much.

 

In that case I don't think expansion is what you are after, as a pellet that expands will not penetrate a deep. With a neck shot the thing you need is penetration in order to severe the spine. The last thing you need in that scenario is a pellet that will stop before it does that and stop in the muscle of the neck. Have you checked if your gun is close to 12 ft/lbs ?? Or are you taking the bunnies at a to great a distance ??

The autopsy of a shot wabbit should give some of the answers you are after.

 

HTH

 

Michael

[Sterry 0]

cheers guys. i know accuracy is paramount but recently for some reason or other i've been clumping the bunnies just below the skull in the neck ,which mean the do just have enough to kick about abit, and im after as little suffering as can be possibly done, i also thought that a little expansion coupled with accuracy cant be a bad thing. i use accupells which dont seem to expand or deform much.

 

In that case I don't think expansion is what you are after, as a pellet that expands will not penetrate a deep. With a neck shot the thing you need is penetration in order to severe the spine. The last thing you need in that scenario is a pellet that will stop before it does that and stop in the muscle of the neck. Have you checked if your gun is close to 12 ft/lbs ?? Or are you taking the bunnies at a to great a distance ??

The autopsy of a shot wabbit should give some of the answers you are after.

 

HTH

 

Michael

 

 

I mean it should be around 12ftlbs (its pcp and apparentl 11.5ftlbs advertised), and im well with in the guns (and my) limits, i dont do anything over 30yrds just aint worth it imo. i think i'll do what you say and have a bit of wabbit post mortum.

[andyfr1968 772]

Does anyone really go for all this 'pellet expansion' guff?

I've always found the pellet that hits where I need it and goes in the furthest works best.

I don't subscribe to all the 'over-penatration' stuff.

With only 12ft-lb's to play with, I want as much as I can get!

 

Cheers.

[Guest Scuba1]

let me elaborate on this. For starters I have to say, that I am not a fan of HP pellets for anything but close work ( ferrals and rats in barns etc. ) because of the aerodynamics of those things. You see, the people that designed the Concorde made it look sort of pointy on the front, instead of strapping an open ended wheelie bin to it because it would have a somewhat negative effect to the performance of it. So a domed or even a pointed pellet has better aerodynamic properties as the HP version. If you shoot a HP pellet at a lump of meat at lets say 30 yards and get it out carefully, chances are, that you can just stick it back in the gun for another go, because at that distance, the HP will have lost a lot of its speed due to said lousy aerodynamic properties.

Whereas the domed or pointed pellet will not have deformed either, but you will have to cut a bit deeper in order to get them out of the lump.

Close in its a different story. If you shoot a rat at close quarters, the pellet is fast enough to deform, but have still enough velocity to get deep in there to do some damage. Whereas the domed pellet will more often then not pass right through expelling most of its retained energy in the wall of the barn. In that scenario the HP has the upper hand. But again, if shot through the head....... the rat could not care less if it has a bit of deformed lead between its ears or just a lot of air. Dead is dead.

 

HTH

 

Michael

Edited April 22, 2009 by Scuba1