Guest gazza Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 The difference is mate a knockout punch you know nothing about so of course it doesnt hurt....a hard body shot is real physical pain theres a big difference....hatton throws a great body shot but is not a concussive knockout puncher,dont take my word for it check his record over the last 6 or 7 years !....if he was a knockout puncher there would be plenty of 1 and 2 round knockouts....theres not....doesnt make him any less of a fighter though. a body shot ko is still a ko and hurts alot more most ov his fights won by ko and you dont know bout a body shot till it puts you on your arse and bnt calzage best jabber around beats the yanks hands down Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRUE SAXON 108 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Hatton would be fighting at the weight he is proven at and even though pacman as won at many weights i wouldn't say he has fought anyone of hattons calibre in his heavier fight considering that de la hoya didnt seem his self in the fight and that was not just to do with his age. As for mayweather pacman shouldn't even come into his head if he comes out of retirement when there is margareta doing good things at mayweathers true weight that would be another top fight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blackntan Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) The difference is mate a knockout punch you know nothing about so of course it doesnt hurt....a hard body shot is real physical pain theres a big difference....hatton throws a great body shot but is not a concussive knockout puncher,dont take my word for it check his record over the last 6 or 7 years !....if he was a knockout puncher there would be plenty of 1 and 2 round knockouts....theres not....doesnt make him any less of a fighter though. a body shot ko is still a ko and hurts alot more most ov his fights won by ko and you dont know bout a body shot till it puts you on your arse and bnt calzage best jabber around beats the yanks hands down NO TOP CLASS BOXER SHOULD BE KO BY A BODY SHOT , AND BIG JOE WHO I HAVE ALL THE ADMRATION IN THE WORLD MAY MEET HIS NEMISIS IN A CERTAIN CARL KROUCH Edited December 10, 2008 by blackntan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gazza Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 The difference is mate a knockout punch you know nothing about so of course it doesnt hurt....a hard body shot is real physical pain theres a big difference....hatton throws a great body shot but is not a concussive knockout puncher,dont take my word for it check his record over the last 6 or 7 years !....if he was a knockout puncher there would be plenty of 1 and 2 round knockouts....theres not....doesnt make him any less of a fighter though. a body shot ko is still a ko and hurts alot more most ov his fights won by ko and you dont know bout a body shot till it puts you on your arse and bnt calzage best jabber around beats the yanks hands down NO TOP CLASS BOXER SHOULD BE KO BY A BODY SHOT , AND BIG JOE WHO I HAVE ALL THE ADMRATION IN THE WORLD MAY MEET HIS NEMISIS IN A CERTAIN CARL KROUCH de lahoya was top class when hopkins kod him with a body shot its the worst punch ask any boxer as for froch hes got to prove himself worthy got to get past kessler etc first and the way he leaves his chin open calzage wouldnt miss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blackntan Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 The difference is mate a knockout punch you know nothing about so of course it doesnt hurt....a hard body shot is real physical pain theres a big difference....hatton throws a great body shot but is not a concussive knockout puncher,dont take my word for it check his record over the last 6 or 7 years !....if he was a knockout puncher there would be plenty of 1 and 2 round knockouts....theres not....doesnt make him any less of a fighter though. a body shot ko is still a ko and hurts alot more most ov his fights won by ko and you dont know bout a body shot till it puts you on your arse and bnt calzage best jabber around beats the yanks hands down NO TOP CLASS BOXER SHOULD BE KO BY A BODY SHOT , AND BIG JOE WHO I HAVE ALL THE ADMRATION IN THE WORLD MAY MEET HIS NEMISIS IN A CERTAIN CARL KROUCH de lahoya was top class when hopkins kod him with a body shot its the worst punch ask any boxer as for froch hes got to prove himself worthy got to get past kessler etc first and the way he leaves his chin open calzage wouldnt miss. DELA HOYA WAS WELL PAST HIS BEST AND ANY PRO WORTH HIS SALT SHOULD HAVE DONE HIS GYM WORK TO TAKE BODY SHOTS ,DELA HOYA ALL WAYS RELIED ON HIS SPEED AND ABILITY WHICH LEFT LEFT HIM A FEW FIGHT AGO , AND WHAT A CHIN KROCH HAS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lurcherboy2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 The difference is mate a knockout punch you know nothing about so of course it doesnt hurt....a hard body shot is real physical pain theres a big difference....hatton throws a great body shot but is not a concussive knockout puncher,dont take my word for it check his record over the last 6 or 7 years !....if he was a knockout puncher there would be plenty of 1 and 2 round knockouts....theres not....doesnt make him any less of a fighter though. a body shot ko is still a ko and hurts alot more most ov his fights won by ko and you dont know bout a body shot till it puts you on your arse and bnt calzage best jabber around beats the yanks hands down NO TOP CLASS BOXER SHOULD BE KO BY A BODY SHOT , AND BIG JOE WHO I HAVE ALL THE ADMRATION IN THE WORLD MAY MEET HIS NEMISIS IN A CERTAIN CARL KROUCH de lahoya was top class when hopkins kod him with a body shot its the worst punch ask any boxer as for froch hes got to prove himself worthy got to get past kessler etc first and the way he leaves his chin open calzage wouldnt miss. theres noone worse than leaving they chin open for jo. he does it for a reason he winds his opponent uo but when he puts his head to his fight and dnt throw so lazy punches hes an excellent fighter, my old boxing coach is in his corner and calzaghe is now becoming a promoter down here his 1st promotion is with a boy who lives in my street, lee TAZ jones, all the best to him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gazza Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 The difference is mate a knockout punch you know nothing about so of course it doesnt hurt....a hard body shot is real physical pain theres a big difference....hatton throws a great body shot but is not a concussive knockout puncher,dont take my word for it check his record over the last 6 or 7 years !....if he was a knockout puncher there would be plenty of 1 and 2 round knockouts....theres not....doesnt make him any less of a fighter though. a body shot ko is still a ko and hurts alot more most ov his fights won by ko and you dont know bout a body shot till it puts you on your arse and bnt calzage best jabber around beats the yanks hands down NO TOP CLASS BOXER SHOULD BE KO BY A BODY SHOT , AND BIG JOE WHO I HAVE ALL THE ADMRATION IN THE WORLD MAY MEET HIS NEMISIS IN A CERTAIN CARL KROUCH de lahoya was top class when hopkins kod him with a body shot its the worst punch ask any boxer as for froch hes got to prove himself worthy got to get past kessler etc first and the way he leaves his chin open calzage wouldnt miss. DELA HOYA WAS WELL PAST HIS BEST AND ANY PRO WORTH HIS SALT SHOULD HAVE DONE HIS GYM WORK TO TAKE BODY SHOTS ,DELA HOYA ALL WAYS RELIED ON HIS SPEED AND ABILITY WHICH LEFT LEFT HIM A FEW FIGHT AGO , AND WHAT A CHIN KROCH HAS joe would hit him so fast he would think he was surrounded.dela hoya wasnt past it when he fought hopkins and i seem to remember putting on a show againt pretty boy floyd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blackntan Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 The difference is mate a knockout punch you know nothing about so of course it doesnt hurt....a hard body shot is real physical pain theres a big difference....hatton throws a great body shot but is not a concussive knockout puncher,dont take my word for it check his record over the last 6 or 7 years !....if he was a knockout puncher there would be plenty of 1 and 2 round knockouts....theres not....doesnt make him any less of a fighter though. a body shot ko is still a ko and hurts alot more most ov his fights won by ko and you dont know bout a body shot till it puts you on your arse and bnt calzage best jabber around beats the yanks hands down NO TOP CLASS BOXER SHOULD BE KO BY A BODY SHOT , AND BIG JOE WHO I HAVE ALL THE ADMRATION IN THE WORLD MAY MEET HIS NEMISIS IN A CERTAIN CARL KROUCH de lahoya was top class when hopkins kod him with a body shot its the worst punch ask any boxer as for froch hes got to prove himself worthy got to get past kessler etc first and the way he leaves his chin open calzage wouldnt miss. DELA HOYA WAS WELL PAST HIS BEST AND ANY PRO WORTH HIS SALT SHOULD HAVE DONE HIS GYM WORK TO TAKE BODY SHOTS ,DELA HOYA ALL WAYS RELIED ON HIS SPEED AND ABILITY WHICH LEFT LEFT HIM A FEW FIGHT AGO , AND WHAT A CHIN KROCH HAS joe would hit him so fast he would think he was surrounded.dela hoya wasnt past it when he fought hopkins and i seem to remember putting on a show againt pretty boy floyd BABY FACE LOVED TO SHOW BOAT AND AT HIS BEST HE WAS THE BEST, BUT I WACHED HIM AGAINST CAMPAS AND IT WAS NOT THE DELA HOYA OF OLD , HE WAS NOT KNOWN TO BE THE BEST IN THE GYM, , I THINK KROCH GIVEN THE SHOT WILL SURPRIZE A FEW AND I AM A JC FAN , BUT I THINK IT MITE BE THE HUNGRY BOXER THAT COMES THRU , REMEMBER QUITING WHILE YOUR AHEAD IS NOT QUITING AT ALL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gazza Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 The difference is mate a knockout punch you know nothing about so of course it doesnt hurt....a hard body shot is real physical pain theres a big difference....hatton throws a great body shot but is not a concussive knockout puncher,dont take my word for it check his record over the last 6 or 7 years !....if he was a knockout puncher there would be plenty of 1 and 2 round knockouts....theres not....doesnt make him any less of a fighter though. a body shot ko is still a ko and hurts alot more most ov his fights won by ko and you dont know bout a body shot till it puts you on your arse and bnt calzage best jabber around beats the yanks hands down NO TOP CLASS BOXER SHOULD BE KO BY A BODY SHOT , AND BIG JOE WHO I HAVE ALL THE ADMRATION IN THE WORLD MAY MEET HIS NEMISIS IN A CERTAIN CARL KROUCH de lahoya was top class when hopkins kod him with a body shot its the worst punch ask any boxer as for froch hes got to prove himself worthy got to get past kessler etc first and the way he leaves his chin open calzage wouldnt miss. DELA HOYA WAS WELL PAST HIS BEST AND ANY PRO WORTH HIS SALT SHOULD HAVE DONE HIS GYM WORK TO TAKE BODY SHOTS ,DELA HOYA ALL WAYS RELIED ON HIS SPEED AND ABILITY WHICH LEFT LEFT HIM A FEW FIGHT AGO , AND WHAT A CHIN KROCH HAS joe would hit him so fast he would think he was surrounded.dela hoya wasnt past it when he fought hopkins and i seem to remember putting on a show againt pretty boy floyd BABY FACE LOVED TO SHOW BOAT AND AT HIS BEST HE WAS THE BEST, BUT I WACHED HIM AGAINST CAMPAS AND IT WAS NOT THE DELA HOYA OF OLD , HE WAS NOT KNOWN TO BE THE BEST IN THE GYM, , I THINK KROCH GIVEN THE SHOT WILL SURPRIZE A FEW AND I AM A JC FAN , BUT I THINK IT MITE BE THE HUNGRY BOXER THAT COMES THRU , REMEMBER QUITING WHILE YOUR AHEAD IS NOT QUITING AT ALL froch doesnt deserve to be mentioned in the same sentance its like witter n hatton?joe is hungry i thought jones jnr would have spanked him how wrong was i. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brimmer 220 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 The difference is mate a knockout punch you know nothing about so of course it doesnt hurt....a hard body shot is real physical pain theres a big difference....hatton throws a great body shot but is not a concussive knockout puncher,dont take my word for it check his record over the last 6 or 7 years !....if he was a knockout puncher there would be plenty of 1 and 2 round knockouts....theres not....doesnt make him any less of a fighter though. a body shot ko is still a ko and hurts alot more most ov his fights won by ko and you dont know bout a body shot till it puts you on your arse and bnt calzage best jabber around beats the yanks hands down NO TOP CLASS BOXER SHOULD BE KO BY A BODY SHOT , AND BIG JOE WHO I HAVE ALL THE ADMRATION IN THE WORLD MAY MEET HIS NEMISIS IN A CERTAIN CARL KROUCH de lahoya was top class when hopkins kod him with a body shot its the worst punch ask any boxer as for froch hes got to prove himself worthy got to get past kessler etc first and the way he leaves his chin open calzage wouldnt miss. DELA HOYA WAS WELL PAST HIS BEST AND ANY PRO WORTH HIS SALT SHOULD HAVE DONE HIS GYM WORK TO TAKE BODY SHOTS ,DELA HOYA ALL WAYS RELIED ON HIS SPEED AND ABILITY WHICH LEFT LEFT HIM A FEW FIGHT AGO , AND WHAT A CHIN KROCH HAS joe would hit him so fast he would think he was surrounded.dela hoya wasnt past it when he fought hopkins and i seem to remember putting on a show againt pretty boy floyd BABY FACE LOVED TO SHOW BOAT AND AT HIS BEST HE WAS THE BEST, BUT I WACHED HIM AGAINST CAMPAS AND IT WAS NOT THE DELA HOYA OF OLD , HE WAS NOT KNOWN TO BE THE BEST IN THE GYM, , I THINK KROCH GIVEN THE SHOT WILL SURPRIZE A FEW AND I AM A JC FAN , BUT I THINK IT MITE BE THE HUNGRY BOXER THAT COMES THRU , REMEMBER QUITING WHILE YOUR AHEAD IS NOT QUITING AT ALL Seeing as my names in this line up of quote's i may as well add to it! A body punch can still be a KO. These sort of punches give you a seconds grace before the full effect takes over and you drop! Mayweather beat Hatton at his own game, and the lesson started after 2 rounds untill the end. The talent and brain won. De La Hoya was class, and a purist boxer to watch, but i think he's clever enough to realise, he's not what he was. Joe allthough a supreme athelete, with a supreme workrate, just never caught the eye unlike some classy boxers like Richie Woodhall (who Joe bullied into nothing in the ring.) Joe needs to leave it alone very soon before his titles go, Hatton need to leave it alone soon before his braincells go. (boys had a few toughies) and De La Hoya needs to go and count his money. Mayweather needs to carry on, and get his big mouth shut for once! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blackntan Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) The difference is mate a knockout punch you know nothing about so of course it doesnt hurt....a hard body shot is real physical pain theres a big difference....hatton throws a great body shot but is not a concussive knockout puncher,dont take my word for it check his record over the last 6 or 7 years !....if he was a knockout puncher there would be plenty of 1 and 2 round knockouts....theres not....doesnt make him any less of a fighter though. a body shot ko is still a ko and hurts alot more most ov his fights won by ko and you dont know bout a body shot till it puts you on your arse and bnt calzage best jabber around beats the yanks hands down NO TOP CLASS BOXER SHOULD BE KO BY A BODY SHOT , AND BIG JOE WHO I HAVE ALL THE ADMRATION IN THE WORLD MAY MEET HIS NEMISIS IN A CERTAIN CARL KROUCH de lahoya was top class when hopkins kod him with a body shot its the worst punch ask any boxer as for froch hes got to prove himself worthy got to get past kessler etc first and the way he leaves his chin open calzage wouldnt miss. DELA HOYA WAS WELL PAST HIS BEST AND ANY PRO WORTH HIS SALT SHOULD HAVE DONE HIS GYM WORK TO TAKE BODY SHOTS ,DELA HOYA ALL WAYS RELIED ON HIS SPEED AND ABILITY WHICH LEFT LEFT HIM A FEW FIGHT AGO , AND WHAT A CHIN KROCH HAS joe would hit him so fast he would think he was surrounded.dela hoya wasnt past it when he fought hopkins and i seem to remember putting on a show againt pretty boy floyd BABY FACE LOVED TO SHOW BOAT AND AT HIS BEST HE WAS THE BEST, BUT I WACHED HIM AGAINST CAMPAS AND IT WAS NOT THE DELA HOYA OF OLD , HE WAS NOT KNOWN TO BE THE BEST IN THE GYM, , I THINK KROCH GIVEN THE SHOT WILL SURPRIZE A FEW AND I AM A JC FAN , BUT I THINK IT MITE BE THE HUNGRY BOXER THAT COMES THRU , REMEMBER QUITING WHILE YOUR AHEAD IS NOT QUITING AT ALL froch doesnt deserve to be mentioned in the same sentance its like witter n hatton?joe is hungry i thought jones jnr would have spanked him how wrong was i. I TOOK JUNIOR ON THE PADS YEARS AGO CRACKING LAD, JOE CAN NOT GO ON FOR EVER HE HAS NOTHING LEFT TO PROVE HE HAS BEAT THE BEST, IT WILL BE TIME THAT BEATS JOE JUST HOPE HE KNOWS WHEN TO GO AND GO AT THE TOP , Edited December 10, 2008 by blackntan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gazza Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 The difference is mate a knockout punch you know nothing about so of course it doesnt hurt....a hard body shot is real physical pain theres a big difference....hatton throws a great body shot but is not a concussive knockout puncher,dont take my word for it check his record over the last 6 or 7 years !....if he was a knockout puncher there would be plenty of 1 and 2 round knockouts....theres not....doesnt make him any less of a fighter though. a body shot ko is still a ko and hurts alot more most ov his fights won by ko and you dont know bout a body shot till it puts you on your arse and bnt calzage best jabber around beats the yanks hands down NO TOP CLASS BOXER SHOULD BE KO BY A BODY SHOT , AND BIG JOE WHO I HAVE ALL THE ADMRATION IN THE WORLD MAY MEET HIS NEMISIS IN A CERTAIN CARL KROUCH de lahoya was top class when hopkins kod him with a body shot its the worst punch ask any boxer as for froch hes got to prove himself worthy got to get past kessler etc first and the way he leaves his chin open calzage wouldnt miss. DELA HOYA WAS WELL PAST HIS BEST AND ANY PRO WORTH HIS SALT SHOULD HAVE DONE HIS GYM WORK TO TAKE BODY SHOTS ,DELA HOYA ALL WAYS RELIED ON HIS SPEED AND ABILITY WHICH LEFT LEFT HIM A FEW FIGHT AGO , AND WHAT A CHIN KROCH HAS joe would hit him so fast he would think he was surrounded.dela hoya wasnt past it when he fought hopkins and i seem to remember putting on a show againt pretty boy floyd BABY FACE LOVED TO SHOW BOAT AND AT HIS BEST HE WAS THE BEST, BUT I WACHED HIM AGAINST CAMPAS AND IT WAS NOT THE DELA HOYA OF OLD , HE WAS NOT KNOWN TO BE THE BEST IN THE GYM, , I THINK KROCH GIVEN THE SHOT WILL SURPRIZE A FEW AND I AM A JC FAN , BUT I THINK IT MITE BE THE HUNGRY BOXER THAT COMES THRU , REMEMBER QUITING WHILE YOUR AHEAD IS NOT QUITING AT ALL froch doesnt deserve to be mentioned in the same sentance its like witter n hatton?joe is hungry i thought jones jnr would have spanked him how wrong was i. I TOOK JUNIOR ON THE PADS YEARS AGO CRACKING LAD, JOE CAN NOT GO ON FOR EVER HE HAS NOTHING LEFT TO PROVE HE HAS BEAT THE BEST, IT WILL BE TIME THAT BEATS JOE JUST HOPE HE KNOWS WHEN TO GO AND GO AT THE TOP , witter is a bam his head is firmly stuck up his arse bradley showed him for what he is shite and he still thinks hes the best light welter in the world.what a fanny.to me there is only 1 fight left out therefor joe n thats tarver the rest dont deserve it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lurcherboy2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 The difference is mate a knockout punch you know nothing about so of course it doesnt hurt....a hard body shot is real physical pain theres a big difference....hatton throws a great body shot but is not a concussive knockout puncher,dont take my word for it check his record over the last 6 or 7 years !....if he was a knockout puncher there would be plenty of 1 and 2 round knockouts....theres not....doesnt make him any less of a fighter though. a body shot ko is still a ko and hurts alot more most ov his fights won by ko and you dont know bout a body shot till it puts you on your arse and bnt calzage best jabber around beats the yanks hands down NO TOP CLASS BOXER SHOULD BE KO BY A BODY SHOT , AND BIG JOE WHO I HAVE ALL THE ADMRATION IN THE WORLD MAY MEET HIS NEMISIS IN A CERTAIN CARL KROUCH de lahoya was top class when hopkins kod him with a body shot its the worst punch ask any boxer as for froch hes got to prove himself worthy got to get past kessler etc first and the way he leaves his chin open calzage wouldnt miss. DELA HOYA WAS WELL PAST HIS BEST AND ANY PRO WORTH HIS SALT SHOULD HAVE DONE HIS GYM WORK TO TAKE BODY SHOTS ,DELA HOYA ALL WAYS RELIED ON HIS SPEED AND ABILITY WHICH LEFT LEFT HIM A FEW FIGHT AGO , AND WHAT A CHIN KROCH HAS joe would hit him so fast he would think he was surrounded.dela hoya wasnt past it when he fought hopkins and i seem to remember putting on a show againt pretty boy floyd BABY FACE LOVED TO SHOW BOAT AND AT HIS BEST HE WAS THE BEST, BUT I WACHED HIM AGAINST CAMPAS AND IT WAS NOT THE DELA HOYA OF OLD , HE WAS NOT KNOWN TO BE THE BEST IN THE GYM, , I THINK KROCH GIVEN THE SHOT WILL SURPRIZE A FEW AND I AM A JC FAN , BUT I THINK IT MITE BE THE HUNGRY BOXER THAT COMES THRU , REMEMBER QUITING WHILE YOUR AHEAD IS NOT QUITING AT ALL froch doesnt deserve to be mentioned in the same sentance its like witter n hatton?joe is hungry i thought jones jnr would have spanked him how wrong was i. I TOOK JUNIOR ON THE PADS YEARS AGO CRACKING LAD, JOE CAN NOT GO ON FOR EVER HE HAS NOTHING LEFT TO PROVE HE HAS BEAT THE BEST, IT WILL BE TIME THAT BEATS JOE JUST HOPE HE KNOWS WHEN TO GO AND GO AT THE TOP , witter is a bam his head is firmly stuck up his arse bradley showed him for what he is shite and he still thinks hes the best light welter in the world.what a fanny.to me there is only 1 fight left out therefor joe n thats tarver the rest dont deserve it. if tarver fights anything like he did with C WOODS then jo will end the fight, iv never thought much of antonio tarver but id love to see this fight take place in the millenium stadium id be straight down there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
diggory 130 Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 i think if the fight is made at rickys best weight there are enough ingredients to make this in to a classic. but has been said previously i think mayweather will fight manny next if ricky does fight manny and its a toe to toe encounter i take ricky for a late stoppage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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