w1ld1ng 5 Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 spoke to a friend the other day who has owls hawk's etc. and he said you don't need any type of licenses but i thought different just wondering if some one can enlighten me further Quote Link to post
RIOHH 30 Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Your friend is right there is no current licensing needed in the uk to keep birds of prey. however certain species of birds do require certain paperwork to prove where they came from but this comes with the bird and it is proof of breeding not a license to keep the bird. Quote Link to post
w1ld1ng 5 Posted October 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 thanks for that mate much appreciate it Quote Link to post
gsi2000stokie 5 Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 ITS CALLED AN ARTICAL 10 OR A10 FOR SHORT. ITS MAINLY FORTHE EUROPEAN BIRDS AS PROOF OF CAPTIVE BREEDING. Quote Link to post
jinxnjill 0 Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 its about time we had some type of licence where at least peoples setups, knowledge,and birds are monitered on occasion as as is well known theres too many idiots out there with bops sitting in the 6x4 garden shed on a bit o wood Quote Link to post
SPAR 2 Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 its about time we had some type of licence where at least peoples setups, knowledge,and birds are monitered on occasion as as is well known theres too many idiots out there with bops sitting in the 6x4 garden shed on a bit o wood I agree, we should have something like the Americans have, a test of some sort Quote Link to post
jasper65 6 Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 its about time we had some type of licence where at least peoples setups, knowledge,and birds are monitered on occasion as as is well known theres too many idiots out there with bops sitting in the 6x4 garden shed on a bit o wood Never a true'er word spoken. The calamaties that we here of and witness is beyond beleif. The classic "My bird is still slow coming to the fist/lure! should I take some more weight off it?" when you dig deeper you find that the bird has already had a good few oz's off it and virtualy on its final legs ... people like this should never have a Hawk until they have completed some sort of apprentiship..... Jasper Quote Link to post
gsi2000stokie 5 Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 breeders could do a bit too though. homes vetted so to speak. or a day out to see the capability's of the new owner. although there is those minority of breeders who are only in it for the money and not the knowing of the weeks of hard work will be worked and looked after properly instead of probably ending up in a rescue center. Quote Link to post
jasper65 6 Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Yep thats a fair point! when my Harris's and Gos's went abroad this year I have no idea what experience the falconers have ... Then again from my own experience I have had people come down who talk the talk after reading a few books yet have never handled a bird, its easy to fall for their patter until later they're on the phone asking silly questions or you hear it from a third party what a mess they're making of it...... I think Breeders have enough on their plate to Vet homes of every potential purchaser, it doesn't just go on with birds its right through the spectrum with all live stock but a aprentiship system simular to in the USA wouldn't go a miss .... Jasper Quote Link to post
gsi2000stokie 5 Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Yep thats a fair point! when my Harris's and Gos's went abroad this year I have no idea what experience the falconers have ... Then again from my own experience I have had people come down who talk the talk after reading a few books yet have never handled a bird, its easy to fall for their patter until later they're on the phone asking silly questions or you hear it from a third party what a mess they're making of it...... I think Breeders have enough on their plate to Vet homes of every potential purchaser, it doesn't just go on with birds its right through the spectrum with all live stock but a aprentiship system simular to in the USA wouldn't go a miss .... Jasper very true mate. i reakon the price of harris hawks doesnt help much though. at least with a gos the price is high so most wouldnt want to make a mistake after spending a lot of money although i suppose there will be the odd exceptions. i dont think the laws are going to change any time soon but in the mean time breeders could also ask for the potential buyer to produce some sort falconry experience certificate. just a thought i know but it could solve a few problems. Quote Link to post
jasper65 6 Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 very true mate. i reakon the price of harris hawks doesnt help much though. at least with a gos the price is high so most wouldnt want to make a mistake after spending a lot of money although i suppose there will be the odd exceptions. i dont think the laws are going to change any time soon but in the mean time breeders could also ask for the potential buyer to produce some sort falconry experience certificate. just a thought i know but it could solve a few problems. You're 100% right Stokie about the Harris situation . they're a good Hunting bird at a resonable price which these days fits the bill for most people, expecially for those who can't get to fly them so much week days. it makes me laugh as when I first started breeding them they was going for £950 and £650 plus they would go pretty quick too.... cheers Jasp Quote Link to post
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