Land permissions?

[Dan_Smiff 2]

I've just sent off my co-terminous application and have given two farms for my firearms (22lr for vermin). When those farms have been checked and approved, will they be written on my ticket as the 2 places I can shoot? And if so, can I shoot as a guest with friends who have permissions else where?

 

Also, is it easy enough to add new land to my ticket (if that's what happens) as and when it becomes available or is it the same as putting in a variation for a different calibre (ie forms, a fee and a few weeks wait)?

 

Hope that makes sense - thanks for any help!

 

Dan

[Mr_Logic 5]

With a closed ticket, you may only shoot on bits of land about which you notify the police. Therefore, if you didn't notify, you couldn't shoot on any piece of land with friends. BUT this process can be as quick as a call to your FEO, so if you have an efficient one you should be OK.

 

If you call them regularly they will likely open your ticket anyway.

 

The very daft thing is that you may shoot with your friends on their permissions using their firearms, but you can't use your own, even if theirs are more powerful than yours.

 

Gotta love GB firearms laws

[jamie g 17]

With a closed ticket, you may only shoot on bits of land about which you notify the police. Therefore, if you didn't notify, you couldn't shoot on any piece of land with friends. BUT this process can be as quick as a call to your FEO, so if you have an efficient one you should be OK.

 

If you call them regularly they will likely open your ticket anyway.

 

The very daft thing is that you may shoot with your friends on their permissions using their firearms, but you can't use your own, even if theirs are more powerful than yours.

 

Gotta love GB firearms laws

 

hi mr l i was under the understanding that if you get invited to a friends shoot which is passed for the rifles say'' you have you can as long as you have permission to shoot there from the owner of the land who lets your friend shoot there ?

 

is that wrong ? it is abit silly if the land is passed and you have permission from the farmer or land owner that lets your friend shoot there ? i no some people cant as the place where they shoot has the name of the farm on there tickets

Edited August 25, 2008 by jamie g

[Dan_Smiff 2]

With a closed ticket, you may only shoot on bits of land about which you notify the police. Therefore, if you didn't notify, you couldn't shoot on any piece of land with friends. BUT this process can be as quick as a call to your FEO, so if you have an efficient one you should be OK.

 

Thanks bud - something worth bringing up with the FEO when they visit then, hope mines a good one!

 

Do then tend to hand out their mobile numbers then?

[Mr_Logic 5]

FEOs generally do dish out their mobile number if you ask, I have mine. He hardly ever answers it, but that's another story!!

 

As far as notification & permission goes it depends on your FAC. As I understand it, if your ticket doesn't specify the land but says it needs to be approved by the Chief Officer of Police, then technically you can shoot on any land you know to be cleared. HOWEVER, correct legal clarification demands you call the Firearms Dept (FEO is normally quicker) to check approval. This ensures that you have complied and are not going on hearsay.

 

If your land is specified then it normally has 'and other ranges and land where the holder has lawful authority to shoot and which have been approved by the Chief Officer of Police', OWTTE. This will clear you after a phone call too.

 

If you are missing that clause then complain, because to shoot anywhere else would require a variation!

 

Therefore, the upshot is that to be 100% legal, with a closed ticket a phone call is required.

[jamie g 17]

FEOs generally do dish out their mobile number if you ask, I have mine. He hardly ever answers it, but that's another story!!

 

As far as notification & permission goes it depends on your FAC. As I understand it, if your ticket doesn't specify the land but says it needs to be approved by the Chief Officer of Police, then technically you can shoot on any land you know to be cleared. HOWEVER, correct legal clarification demands you call the Firearms Dept (FEO is normally quicker) to check approval. This ensures that you have complied and are not going on hearsay.

 

If your land is specified then it normally has 'and other ranges and land where the holder has lawful authority to shoot and which have been approved by the Chief Officer of Police', OWTTE. This will clear you after a phone call too.

 

If you are missing that clause then complain, because to shoot anywhere else would require a variation!

 

Therefore, the upshot is that to be 100% legal, with a closed ticket a phone call is required.

 

cool mate better to be save then sorry i guess. i really want a open ticket its so much more easy plus if your fairarms department are very and behind like mine is most of the time it can take a age for them to go check some land.

 

im getting rid of my 22lr and using the money for better scope for the 22/250 so i will only have hmr and 22/250 then.

 

i guess i will ask to see if my ticket can be open at the end of this year or next. and ask my friend i go with to write a letter for me to help back me up on it

[Mr_Logic 5]

FEOs generally do dish out their mobile number if you ask, I have mine. He hardly ever answers it, but that's another story!!

 

As far as notification & permission goes it depends on your FAC. As I understand it, if your ticket doesn't specify the land but says it needs to be approved by the Chief Officer of Police, then technically you can shoot on any land you know to be cleared. HOWEVER, correct legal clarification demands you call the Firearms Dept (FEO is normally quicker) to check approval. This ensures that you have complied and are not going on hearsay.

 

If your land is specified then it normally has 'and other ranges and land where the holder has lawful authority to shoot and which have been approved by the Chief Officer of Police', OWTTE. This will clear you after a phone call too.

 

If you are missing that clause then complain, because to shoot anywhere else would require a variation!

 

Therefore, the upshot is that to be 100% legal, with a closed ticket a phone call is required.

 

cool mate better to be save then sorry i guess. i really want a open ticket its so much more easy plus if your fairarms department are very and behind like mine is most of the time it can take a age for them to go check some land.

 

im getting rid of my 22lr and using the money for better scope for the 22/250 so i will only have hmr and 22/250 then.

 

i guess i will ask to see if my ticket can be open at the end of this year or next. and ask my friend i go with to write a letter for me to help back me up on it

If you get rid of the 22LR, make sure you keep a slot for one, as you'll soon be in the market for another

[welshdragon 6]

FEOs generally do dish out their mobile number if you ask, I have mine. He hardly ever answers it, but that's another story!!

 

As far as notification & permission goes it depends on your FAC. As I understand it, if your ticket doesn't specify the land but says it needs to be approved by the Chief Officer of Police, then technically you can shoot on any land you know to be cleared. HOWEVER, correct legal clarification demands you call the Firearms Dept (FEO is normally quicker) to check approval. This ensures that you have complied and are not going on hearsay.

 

If your land is specified then it normally has 'and other ranges and land where the holder has lawful authority to shoot and which have been approved by the Chief Officer of Police', OWTTE. This will clear you after a phone call too.

 

If you are missing that clause then complain, because to shoot anywhere else would require a variation!

 

Therefore, the upshot is that to be 100% legal, with a closed ticket a phone call is required.

 

cool mate better to be save then sorry i guess. i really want a open ticket its so much more easy plus if your fairarms department are very and behind like mine is most of the time it can take a age for them to go check some land.

 

im getting rid of my 22lr and using the money for better scope for the 22/250 so i will only have hmr and 22/250 then.

 

i guess i will ask to see if my ticket can be open at the end of this year or next. and ask my friend i go with to write a letter for me to help back me up on it

 

hi jamie david wrote a letter for me to have mine open they said they will look after 3 years and i have 18 farms maybe more than that plus 3 golf courses

 

W.D