2.8 guy 403 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 just bought one of these what seem very hard intelligent little dogs, with the idea of putting a bit of the blood in some of my lurcher lines,would be intrested to hear from anyone who owns one of these dogs or has bred them into lurchers or knows anyone that has,also anyone that knows the make up of the breed.my collie g,hound x bull g,hound pups have finealy hit the floor,7,bitches 1,dog.think i may of bred some fairly handy dogs there by accident .thanks.Nick HI NICK i owned and hunted a cattle dog cross lurcher she was half x to half x sharing the same cattle dog farther to 2 different greyhounds bitches out of dixons line i can only discribe her as the best all round lurcher ive owned and likeley to ever own she has past now but was a legened and in her younger days would of held her own against anything she was no hare dog but day or night on rabbits fox d she was a outstanding hunter, but on a night no need for slips watched the been a proper tool of the trade however i took a litter of pups at six years old to a collie x kept 2 pups back but neither was up to scratch at 14 months and 18 months my keeper friend has the bitch and rates it highly i heard mixed reports back in the day and new two guys who said they was crap but others who owned them said they was very good i can only comment on mine a legend a best friend protector to me and her family so much more than a tool all i will say to you is good luck with your breeding plan make sure you have the best stud dogs avialable and choose the best bitch you can find there are a lot of crap out there choose wiseley oh and they have a tendancy to bite you first and think later lol thinking of breeding some too if i can get the right stuff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ned Makim 116 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 G'day, just a couple of things... Cattle dogs in Oz are not always known as heelers. That is a regional thing. In northern NSW and southern Qld they are simply known as cattle dogs. Everyone and I mean everyone treats someone else's cattle dog like a snake. They are renowned for biting people if they come within range. Plenty aren't biters but it is best here to assume they all bite. They are extremely popular as guard dogs for tradies' (tradesmen's) vehicles to look after tools. I am not exaggerating, a ute with a cattle dog in the back will be left alone. In the past they were very very popular crossed with English bull terriers as pig catching dogs. Very tough, very smart but often a bit inclined to fight. My father was a saddler and when I was a kid we would travel to shows and rodeos with a display of gear to sell to horse people, roughriders (bucking horse and bull riders...) and bush workers. We always had a cattle dog with us to help with security. Once when I was about 10 I was sitting in the display area when I saw a hand coming in under the back of the display and reaching up toward a table of pocket knives. The dog (Kei, short for Keith) was watching too. When the hand reached the table Kei looked at me and then closed his mouth on the bloke's hand. He hung on until I said let go and the hand disappeared. Dad kept looking until he found a bloke with a dog bitten hand at the bar and they got into on the spot...dad was hard for most blokes to beat anyway but with one hand it was impossible ha ha. Cattle dogs are tough, smart (good ones are incredibly smart, instinctive), loyal and can be activated as hunters incredibly easily. There are numerous bush stories in Oz of cattle dogs guarding little children, saving them from drowning, killing snakes etc. They need to know you are definitely pack leader and assume they will bite strangers and all will go well. They are hungry for work and to learn. I have a lot of respect for cattle dogs and I prefer the red ones, just a personal taste thing. Anyway, just a bit of background. I think crossed with greyhounds you might get something very special for your kind of work. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 G'day, just a couple of things... Cattle dogs in Oz are not always known as heelers. That is a regional thing. In northern NSW and southern Qld they are simply known as cattle dogs. Everyone and I mean everyone treats someone else's cattle dog like a snake. They are renowned for biting people if they come within range. Plenty aren't biters but it is best here to assume they all bite. They are extremely popular as guard dogs for tradies' (tradesmen's) vehicles to look after tools. I am not exaggerating, a ute with a cattle dog in the back will be left alone. In the past they were very very popular crossed with English bull terriers as pig catching dogs. Very tough, very smart but often a bit inclined to fight. My father was a saddler and when I was a kid we would travel to shows and rodeos with a display of gear to sell to horse people, roughriders (bucking horse and bull riders...) and bush workers. We always had a cattle dog with us to help with security. Once when I was about 10 I was sitting in the display area when I saw a hand coming in under the back of the display and reaching up toward a table of pocket knives. The dog (Kei, short for Keith) was watching too. When the hand reached the table Kei looked at me and then closed his mouth on the bloke's hand. He hung on until I said let go and the hand disappeared. Dad kept looking until he found a bloke with a dog bitten hand at the bar and they got into on the spot...dad was hard for most blokes to beat anyway but with one hand it was impossible ha ha. Cattle dogs are tough, smart (good ones are incredibly smart, instinctive), loyal and can be activated as hunters incredibly easily. There are numerous bush stories in Oz of cattle dogs guarding little children, saving them from drowning, killing snakes etc. They need to know you are definitely pack leader and assume they will bite strangers and all will go well. They are hungry for work and to learn. I have a lot of respect for cattle dogs and I prefer the red ones, just a personal taste thing. Anyway, just a bit of background. I think crossed with greyhounds you might get something very special for your kind of work. Cheers. A very interesing post Ned.. Good read.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fireman 11,365 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Old thread this but the bitch that has been pictured was kept,she came out with us mooching and sure showed she was worth breeding from for a lurcher,i looked after her and reared the litter of which i kept one myself.The pup i kept was everything i could ever wish for in a dog,she'd guard over me and i knew she'd die for me no questions asked and she was only 10 months old when i lost her.She had enough pace for a good few different sorts of game and she was built just right ,she shattered her for leg and was pts and i ain't amshamed to say i wept but all is not lost as her litter brother is doing really well and is turning into a very very good ferreting dog(not to be confused with a dog that goes ferreting )indeed and from him the future looks bright. ps.After the litter the bitch was re homed to a polo stables in the new forest,the lady had a acd already and ended up getting another after the bitch went there as well,54 acre's to run loose on and ended up with a better non working home than i could ever wish for. Just thought i'd finish with a happy ending. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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