otter v terrier

[wood smoke 0]

I know it's been illegal for years how many i dont know, was it made illegal because otters where becomeing

endagered through hunting or was it pollution endagered em, so otter hunting had to be banned before they were extinct

????? badger digging whent on for years after, same with fox hunting the otter must of been a hell of a pest on stocked

rivers like the Test in hampshire and others...

What iam getting at is what sort of a challenge would he have been for a terrier in his Holt , would a hard terrier

be any good to him or was it russell types just to flush for the hounds ???? Seen a pic of an irish wheaten in the terrier

year books that killed one in the open and made a legend of itself

So any older members that actually took part or anyone that knows what otter hunting was like please share....

especially the type of terriers.. What a great sport it sounds.

[Guest pip]

Plenty on here can answer your questions about that mate but that wheatan was a legend before and not because of that.Just a rare photo.

[dogs-n-natives 1,182]

Border terriers were the ones used up this area for otter work, and they were a very hard terrier, but must have used their brain well.

[Neil Cooney. 1]

Peter Sinead was a well known terrier but not because of that picture but because he was a good one.

Otter hunting was outlawed because the Otter was under threat from pollution and habitat destruction and as far as I know the hunt's agreed to stop.

Here in Ireland when the liscence's were took off of the Otter hunts at the time the highest population of Otters was in the area where hunting still took place. Hence hunting had no influence on Otter numbers. This was also found in England too.

Badger digging was outlawed in Britain only four years after Otter hunting but unlike Otter hunting Badger digging was made illegal because of the cowboys that keep terriers.

[just jack 998]

have you not seen TARKA the OTTER, great film remember seeing it when a lad

[Guest blackntan]

A SWEEPING STATEMENT, RE COWBOYS, i had the good fortune to meet and talk to bert gripton who i assure you was not a gun toting ten gallon hat wearing texan, but a gentelman who hunted otter and badger, the dimise of the otter was the over use of pesticide and the destructoin of habitat due to agricultural methords, the badger as you know is the most protected animal on this earth not because of terrier men , because of the animal welfare lobby who picked mr badger as there hero knowing the public would latch on to this well known animal , and get behind the cause , it took a further 30 odd years to get the so called hunting act thru why , cos the fox has always had a bad press , ye hah mr coony from all us terriermen ,

[Neil Cooney. 1]

Maybe read my post again.

Like I said those that did it right did no harm. The cowboys did the harm.

Mr. Cooney.

[Guest pip]

I think Neil is as much a terrierman as any,and rightfully condemns "cowboys" who jump on the "bandwagon" with a terrier doing things to quarry which no true terrierman would ever contemplate.Well said neil.

[Guest WILF]

Its the same for ALL fieldsports..........the cruel feckers and gung-ho meat heads will be the death of us all

[Guest blackntan]

think you you need to, your choice of words not mine. , mind due you must be right PIP agrees with you ,

[Guest pip]

Now now B&T dont be like that :kiss:You like me B&T and if you seen me you d want to kiss me ,good looking too.lol

Edited July 16, 2008 by pip

[Corkonian 44]

Edited June 9, 2009 by Corkonian

[jamie g 17]

didnt they use airdale terriers years ago for otters to ?

[Bryan 1,363]

i think the Irish packs stopped applying for licences because of water levels! ??

the anti's were making a big deal about water levels being so low during the sumers of 88 and 89 that the Otters couldn't evade hounds. So the packs just switched to mink and didn't apply for anymore licences.

But i think there has been a change in Irish law under the 2000 ammendment to the 76' wildlife act. which repealled the right of the minister to grant a licence.so otter hunting is now illegal in Ireland. this ammendment was due to the Otters staus in Europe being under threat and nothing to do with it Thriving in Ireland.

Micheal O'Sullivan from U.C.C. published the thesis in '88 that the otter population in the whole of Europe that was least effected by pesticides and recovered quickest from their decline from DDT was the Munster population. The only ones that were being hunted.Funnily enough the anti's never did make much use of his study. I think he spent a lot of time hunting with the Cork City's to get data for his work.

Bryan

[Corkonian 44]

Edited June 9, 2009 by Corkonian