swanseajack 227 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 I wonder what stories this could tell ??? Loooks like it's been in the ground for some time don't ya think ?? Quote Link to post
Rolfe 2 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Probably not as long as you think........that top lever opening says a lot.........are you going to clean it up and see if there is a makers name anywhere on it........or a serial number maybe. This would date it more accurately. Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 I can tell you the make, Its a Baikal. I have an IJ58 which has an identical action to that, the auto safety bar is the same, the safety is the same as is the profile of the action. Mine was made in the USSR which makes it at least 20 years old and is more than likely about 25. Bit of information for you anyway. Regards SS Quote Link to post
alimac 882 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 av you been sneaking around on my place ???? either that or iv been up to you... a fisherman handed me something he found in the river the other day... il post a picture.. Quote Link to post
dicehorn 38 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 You can tell by the yaws that it is a Webley & Scott Peter Quote Link to post
timmy222 0 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Thats a baikal for sure, I have one. Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 No doubt about it, its a baikal, even whats left of the engraving is the same as mine. Ill post a picture soon. SS Quote Link to post
swanseajack 227 Posted May 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 What is puzzling me, is, Why is it in the ground ????? Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 I was thinking that Jack but then, if it is 20 odd years old then it would not need to be registered on an SGC so it could have been dumped. Cant imagine how it would get lost. SS Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 My own thoughts exactly, SP! I guess it's all dependent on where it was found (I'd love to know How someone unearths an old action!). But a cheap double barrel? Laid in the ground? It's well within the time scale that I found myself staring down the wrong end of one. Wonder where the barrels have got to? Did that particular model come with a beechwood furniture? Funny how such details imprint themselves on ones mind, eh? Beechwood furniture. Unblued ends to the sawn off barrels. Pointed at my face. FFS. Excuse me whilse I go curl up in a ball as I recall all that. Sorry but, no 'smiley' quite expresses That emotion. Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Yeah, Ditch, Mine has beechwood furniture and 28 3/4" barrels, but I suspect the ones you saw were considerably shorter as wood the barrels on this one. You'll have to put that one in the book Ditch. SS Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 The North?!? Why didn't somebody say that before?! Jee Suss! I think we can quietly close the case on That one then! Quote Link to post
swanseajack 227 Posted May 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Considering where it was found (NI)....and the probable timescale i'd say its had a colourful past... Never assume Nikey.... it wasn't found in NI that's for sure... side of a road down a lane in Wales mate.... Quote Link to post
shaun22 0 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 I wonder what stories this could tell ??? Loooks like it's been in the ground for some time don't ya think ?? If thats a Baikal as others have posted then it was dumped as a dangerous piece of crap. I've only seen two in the field and both had a problem with accidental discharge on closing the action onto live cartridges. I know a dozen owners will say how good they are, but from my perspective they are lethal and I wouldn't be suprised if its previous owner just smashed it over a fence post and threw it into a ditch - in the old post card style SGC days. Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 I wonder what stories this could tell ??? Loooks like it's been in the ground for some time don't ya think ?? If thats a Baikal as others have posted then it was dumped as a dangerous piece of crap. I've only seen two in the field and both had a problem with accidental discharge on closing the action onto live cartridges. I know a dozen owners will say how good they are, but from my perspective they are lethal and I wouldn't be suprised if its previous owner just smashed it over a fence post and threw it into a ditch - in the old post card style SGC days. More than a dozen i'll think you'll find. As ive said before, mine is pushing 25 years old and has never put a foot wrong. He would have sprained his wrist trying to break a Baikal on a fencepost! Most are built like brick s**t houses. You must have just come across two bad ones. Baikal Record cartridges were absolutely lethal, often they would ball the shot under the pressure and fire what was in effect a slug and the noise with them was unbelievable. Regards SS Quote Link to post
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