the_stig 6,614 Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 well said wilky think your bang on mate . now why did`nt i say it like that Quote Link to post
Guest pip Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Just to add i have no bother with bull lurchers its a different ballgame ,in fact i m a big fan of em Quote Link to post
Chainman 8 Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 me too, love the bull cross lurchers, proper tool. we have got to keep breeding good workers to good workers lads (or lasses you never know) the old boys of digging have set up good working strains for us to use, they had years trying to breed the "perfect" dog, different strains have different traits. keep the lines pure. what makes the heads strong in your line of terrier sam ?? is there any bull in that line way back ?? but like some one before said theres bulls and bulls any one can put a pat across any old bull and flog as workers but if the bulls a line bred worker same a the pat then theres a difference the bulls ive had were certainly not brain dead !!! Quote Link to post
threbb 0 Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 a lot of the old black stuff had bull in it so do a lot of the smooth russell types in russells bull was used to get the coat . in the black imo it was for work - to compete with the black and white fella nowadays very little point in putting bull into working terriers . jus my views . A few years ago i saw a half bull half patterdale young dog for sale and the seller was mr Brian Nuttall Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,244 Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Thats right there is Bulls and there is Bulls and if you don't understand that then balls. Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 a lot of the old black stuff had bull in it so do a lot of the smooth russell types in russells bull was used to get the coat . in the black imo it was for work - to compete with the black and white fella nowadays very little point in putting bull into working terriers . jus my views . A few years ago i saw a half bull half patterdale young dog for sale and the seller was mr Brian Nuttall i said that in my second post ? i`ve seen nuttall bull crosses on his yard. Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Funny that with Nuttall, i've seen (or rather heard) Brian give a number of 'talks' over the years at various club nights, some going back over 25years (the old Wigan Club). Always this question came up and he always denied putting bull blood in..... I've seen bull/russells, bull/blacks and a bull/lakie work and though some of them did and work well Bull/russells mainly, I'd question as to what the bull added to the mix that a decent line of terrier wouldn't? 'Game', 'hard'..... plenty of strains and lines out there just as game & hard and would agree with Nikey that added bull would cause dogs to quit far more often. Then size must become a factor, at this time, with only one quarry available to dig, what size would most of the litter turn out like? Draw dogs then 'eh, i'm sure many would say that the 'wastage' would do this job well...... How long before this type would end up smashed to bits and putting a smashed 'docked staff' in your motor, full permission or not would do you no favors on a routine 'pull'. If you need a 'draw dog' i'd look to one of the Irish types, or a bullx lurcher, though I'd also question your standard of terrier! I'm sure in days of yor, many lines of terrier and many terrier men used a drop of bull blood, but in this day and age with the many lines and strains of terrier, improved lines of communication and distance and prices, stick to what ye know! Cheers Quote Link to post
howard 0 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Bull terriers with no nose and lacking gameness who the would out cross to one of those when there are plenty of game bull terriers out there with buckets of working ability. Quote Link to post
steezy 1 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 of what type of bull we are talking about ? Staff Bull , Pitbull , Irish staff , Am Staff ? what was the most type of Bull addet in the past to the black dog´s ? Greeting´s Steezy Quote Link to post
damashaman 1 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Very well said Steezy, very well said Nikey. You are both obviously men who know there onions and not just cyber typers like the vast maj. No dis to anyone else, I only read those two comments! Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 of what type of bull we are talking about ?Staff Bull , Pitbull , Irish staff , Am Staff ? what was the most type of Bull addet in the past to the black dog´s ? Greeting´s Steezy staff Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 (edited) Very well said Steezy, very well said Nikey. You are both obviously men who know there onions and not just cyber typers like the vast maj.No dis to anyone else, I only read those two comments! cyber typers and cyber readers Edited April 8, 2008 by the_stig Quote Link to post
damashaman 1 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Or cyber trolls? Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Or cyber trolls? Quote Link to post
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