FAC-Few Questions

[SportingShooter 0]

My licensing dept has finally succumbed to grant me my FAC.

Anyway, on a first grant are the pieces of land which you list on the application form normally listed on the certificate itself.

this has not happened on mine.

Also, i put the rimfire down for only one of the three pieces of land i listed on the application form, but seen as the other pieces of land have been accepted can i use the rimfire on the other bits of land aswell. i.e is the land specific to the calibre.

any help would be appreciated.

thanks

ss06

[James@Scarborough 0]

I have never seen a "closed" certificate, as mine was open from application, so I'm not sure on this one.

[Deker 3,491]

My licensing dept has finally succumbed to grant me my FAC.

Anyway, on a first grant are the pieces of land which you list on the application form normally listed on the certificate itself.

this has not happened on mine.

Also, i put the rimfire down for only one of the three pieces of land i listed on the application form, but seen as the other pieces of land have been accepted can i use the rimfire on the other bits of land aswell. i.e is the land specific to the calibre.

any help would be appreciated.

thanks

ss06

 

 

What exactly does it say under "additional conditions" on the front page?

[SportingShooter 0]

right here goes.

5.The 17hmr rifle and 17hmr moderator and the ammunition shalll be used for shooting vermin and for zeroing on ranges or land deemed suitable to the chief officer of police for the area where the land is situated and over which the holder has the lawful authority to shoot.

 

6.the .222 rifle and .222 moderator and the ammunition shall be used for shooting fox and other medium sized quarry and for zeroing on ranges or land deemed suitable to the chief officer of police for the area where the land is situated and over which the holder has the lawful authority to shoot.

 

7. the .222 rifle and .222 moderator to which the certificate relates can only be used by the holder under the supervision of/whilst accompanied by Mr ***** ******, the holder of certificate number *************.

 

8.the certificate holder may possess purchase or acquire expanding ammunition or the missiles of such ammunition in the calibres authorised by this certificate and use only in connection with (a) the shooting of vermin or in connection with the management of any estate, other wildlife.

 

that is what it says exactly.

thanks in advance

ss06

[James@Scarborough 0]

7. the .222 rifle and .222 moderator to which the certificate relates can only be used by the holder under the supervision of/whilst accompanied by Mr ***** ******, the holder of certificate number *************.

 

WHAT THE IS THAT?

Surely they can't place you under supervision????

[Deker 3,491]

right here goes.

5.The 17hmr rifle and 17hmr moderator and the ammunition shalll be used for shooting vermin and for zeroing on ranges or land deemed suitable to the chief officer of police for the area where the land is situated and over which the holder has the lawful authority to shoot.

 

6.the .222 rifle and .222 moderator and the ammunition shall be used for shooting fox and other medium sized quarry and for zeroing on ranges or land deemed suitable to the chief officer of police for the area where the land is situated and over which the holder has the lawful authority to shoot.

 

7. the .222 rifle and .222 moderator to which the certificate relates can only be used by the holder under the supervision of/whilst accompanied by Mr ***** ******, the holder of certificate number *************.

 

8.the certificate holder may possess purchase or acquire expanding ammunition or the missiles of such ammunition in the calibres authorised by this certificate and use only in connection with (a) the shooting of vermin or in connection with the management of any estate, other wildlife.

 

that is what it says exactly.

thanks in advance

ss06

 

 

OK... put simply you can use any of the guns on ANY land cleared by the Chief officer of Police, in the case of the centrefire, whilst accompanied. At the moment you can only assume the land you listed for each calibe is approved for that calibre! However, you can shoot on far more land than you asked for, but if you find a new piece of land you will need to check with your FEO if it is cleared! It does not matter if you only listed 1, 2, or 3 pieces of land for any and all calibres, you will need to check EACH piece of land for EACH calibre with your FEO to see what is cleared. Pain in the arse but that's the way it goes.... use some ammo, as much as possible, keep some record of what and where you shoot and in 6 months or a year apply for an OPEN certificate, and all your problems will go away!!!

 

ATB

 

Deker

[Deker 3,491]

7. the .222 rifle and .222 moderator to which the certificate relates can only be used by the holder under the supervision of/whilst accompanied by Mr ***** ******, the holder of certificate number *************.

 

WHAT THE IS THAT?

Surely they can't place you under supervision????

 

 

 

Yes they can..it's actually quite common now!

[James@Scarborough 0]

7. the .222 rifle and .222 moderator to which the certificate relates can only be used by the holder under the supervision of/whilst accompanied by Mr ***** ******, the holder of certificate number *************.

 

WHAT THE IS THAT?

Surely they can't place you under supervision????

 

 

 

Yes they can..it's actually quite common now!

It's like being back at school .

[Deker 3,491]

7. the .222 rifle and .222 moderator to which the certificate relates can only be used by the holder under the supervision of/whilst accompanied by Mr ***** ******, the holder of certificate number *************.

 

WHAT THE IS THAT?

Surely they can't place you under supervision????

 

 

 

Yes they can..it's actually quite common now!

It's like being back at school .

 

Yep, but if he keeps his nose clean he will be able to apply for the condition to be removed in a "few" months, usually 6 months+ and just possibly be able to get an open certificate at the same time. (probably a bit longer for the Open)

[James@Scarborough 0]

Well SS06, I hope you get your conditions removed and your ticket opened as soon as possible mate.

ATB,

James

[SportingShooter 0]

thanks for all the replies, i hope it wont be too long before i can get the condition removed.

its a pain having that condition but hey ive got the piece of paper that counts.

i will just get out as often as possible with the centrefire and practice a fair bit with the .17

[Mr_Logic 5]

GRRRRRRR! At least you do have the centrefire, but mentoring for 22CF gets me annoyed, in fact mentoring generally. I can understand it for deer shooting, as there is a lot to worry about (all explained by my FEO who has either whacked me down as mentored or DSC, will find out when (if?!) I get my ticket back).

 

But for 22CF, it's bollocks. The 222 will not go that much further than HMR. OK, it hits harder, but if the shot is safe, then the shot is safe, .17HMR or .222. F****ing fascists, we the Shooting Community shouldn't take this....