A little daunted BUT..

[philpot 5,166]

£26 down and the Birchwood Casey Perma Blue kit arrived yesterday from Ramsbottoms. Today I made a start using the kit items and following the instruction booklet to the letter. 

Three cleans with Cleaner Degreaser, washing and drying between treatments.

A seriously good treatment of Blue and Rust Remover then washing and drying.

Apply the Perma Blue using both the mop supplied and fine wire wool.

FECKING SHITE

I am so bloody pissed off, the surface is streaky and patchy. Contacted Ramsbottoms, they dont know the product, some feckin help that is, I have also emailed Birchwood Casey in the states to get some help and I have no option but to wait and see what they come back with and at the same time Ramsbottoms have a piece of my mind and advised them that they have 'Duty of care ' to me so get something sorted.

I could chuck this whole fecking outfit in the sea and trust me, it has crossed my mind.

If these cannot be improved somehow, I have little choice but to spray paint the gun but that will be another £30+ for a primer, paint and top coat and I am really not sure if I can be bothered, at the moment it is going to be put to one side and forgotten about until I want some more abuse or if Birchwood casey can offer me some good advice but I am not holding too much hope.

Without any doubt whatsoever, I will not be renovating any gun ever again..................

[Daniel cain 50,514]

Take a deep breath....and give Big Mac a PM

[philpot 5,166]

37 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

Take a deep breath....and give Big Mac a PM

Jimmy knows the issues I have had but not this one so no doubt we will be talking soon but I am going to wait to hear back from Birchwood Casey then we will see what they suggest Daniel. If all else fails, spray paint..........

Phil

[philpot 5,166]

Going on some US sites, I found that cold bluing doesn't work on nickel steel leaving the sort of stains I have on mine. With this in mind, I can only guess that this gun fits that group so I don't think it is worth messing around any more waiting for a response from Birchwood Casey as I doubt it will ever come.

I have just been talking to my shooting buddy who has a nice heated garage so I think we will set up a spray station in there once I have the paints and get it done once and for all. I know some of you will turn your nose up at painted metalwork but I can live with it and it is really the only course of action open to me as I have no intention of stripping it down and trying hot bluing,  I know when I am beaten..............

[bigmac 97kt 13,858]

On 22/01/2026 at 13:33, philpot said:

Going on some US sites, I found that cold bluing doesn't work on nickel steel leaving the sort of stains I have on mine. With this in mind, I can only guess that this gun fits that group so I don't think it is worth messing around any more waiting for a response from Birchwood Casey as I doubt it will ever come.

I have just been talking to my shooting buddy who has a nice heated garage so I think we will set up a spray station in there once I have the paints and get it done once and for all. I know some of you will turn your nose up at painted metalwork but I can live with it and it is really the only course of action open to me as I have no intention of stripping it down and trying hot bluing,  I know when I am beaten..............

They did not do a nickel and stainles barrel or action on the 77 Phil so it should still take the bluing 

It may be just a case of finding the right one that Will take to it 

[philpot 5,166]

45 minutes ago, bigmac 97kt said:

They did not do a nickel and stainles barrel or action on the 77 Phil so it should still take the bluing 

It may be just a case of finding the right one that Will take to it 

I wonder if it is worthwhile phoning Hull Cartridge to see if they know because I could buy another 10 products and be no better off. After all Jimmy I have used the two most popular products on the UK market.

[bigmac 97kt 13,858]

20 hours ago, philpot said:

I wonder if it is worthwhile phoning Hull Cartridge to see if they know because I could buy another 10 products and be no better off. After all Jimmy I have used the two most popular products on the UK market.

Its a pity we cant get that Hobbies

Gun blue anymore in this country 

That i used on the Diana that i did for si 

[molehill 26]

Aww bugger. Bite the bullet. Strip it (its simple) send it to that creakoting place you mentioned. A tack driver you mention, well worth the effort. Clean  out polish piston, new piston seal and refit same spring. Spraypaint will soon look shite (i made that mistake - you will regret it) too good of a gun to bodge especially if you get the stock looking good.