Pardus 1,611 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, Francie, said: Yes but it has alot more population than Sweden. If you don't think there's a link that's fine,others do. What the hell has that got to do with it, the stats are per capita. Take your conspiracy head for a bit and do some research, as per usual you are jumping to conclusions, if you looked at the data you will see that babies vaccinated have half the risks of SIDS compared to unvaccinated infants, you won't like reading that so you'll cry lie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,816 Posted June 30 Author Report Share Posted June 30 2 minutes ago, Pardus said: What the hell has that got to do with it, the stats are per capita. Take your conspiracy head for a bit and do some research, as per usual you are jumping to conclusions, if you looked at the data you will see that babies vaccinated have half the risks of SIDS compared to unvaccinated infants, you won't like reading that so you'll cry lie. I think your jumping to conclusions,you've just said that unvaccinated babies are more than half likely to die than vaccinated babies,weres the data for this let's see it. So your implying that measles mumps or rubella are causing sids,or you saying being vaccinated for these diseases reduces the risk of sids? I think your correlation an causation is working against you in that regards,sure they don't know why the babies are dying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,611 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 2 minutes ago, Francie, said: I think your jumping to conclusions,you've just said that unvaccinated babies are more than half likely to die than vaccinated babies,weres the data for this let's see it. So your implying that measles mumps or rubella are causing sids,or you saying being vaccinated for these diseases reduces the risk of sids? I think your correlation an causation is working against you in that regards,sure they don't know why the babies are dying. Have a read, hopefully it might reach you but I have my doubts. Fact Check: Missed vaccinations did not reduce US sudden infant death rate | Reuters https://share.google/d6TbRnZoqPOchY857 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,816 Posted June 30 Author Report Share Posted June 30 20 minutes ago, Pardus said: Have a read, hopefully it might reach you but I have my doubts. Fact Check: Missed vaccinations did not reduce US sudden infant death rate | Reuters https://share.google/d6TbRnZoqPOchY857 I could easily say correlation does not mean causation in your above post. You said it to me an this is the same thing,but you won't accept it when I say it,it's ok when you do it. So it increased in 2020 in USA even tho alot of babies didn't get vaccinated,so your determining that babies who get jabbed for mmr etc are less likely to die of sids? Is that what your saying Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,611 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 2 minutes ago, Francie, said: I could easily say correlation does not mean causation in your above post. You said it to me an this is the same thing,but you won't accept it when I say it,it's ok when you do it. So it increased in 2020 in USA even tho alot of babies didn't get vaccinated,so your determining that babies who get jabbed for mmr etc are less likely to die of sids? Is that what your saying It's not what I'm saying, it's what the data says FFS! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,816 Posted June 30 Author Report Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, Pardus said: It's not what I'm saying, it's what the data says FFS! Do you even read your own links,I delved further into your link,it states that there was a drop in immunisations in 2020,it does not say for 2 to 4 months old it say from 2 years up an says feck all about the vaccinations for 2 to 4 months old but says for flu jabs,2 to 4 months old don't get flu jabs. An another thing the study that said there was a drop in immunisations in 2020 ( even tho it mentions feck all about 2 to 4 month old vaccination) under 3000 mothers were in the study ffs an that's how they came to there conclusion immunisations dropped in 2020. Read the details massively not convincing. The COVID-19 pandemic has decreased uptake of pediatric preventive care, including immunizations. We estimate the prevalence of missed pediatric routine medical visits and vaccinations over the first year of the COVID-19 pandemic. We conducted a cross-sectional online survey of 2074 US parents of children ≤12 years in March 2021 to measure the proportion of children who missed pediatric care and vaccinations over the first 12 months of the COVID-19 pandemic. Poisson regression models were fitted to estimate adjusted prevalence ratios (aPR). All analyses were weighted to represent the target population. Overall, 41.3% (95%CI 38.3–43.8) of parents reported their youngest child missed a routine medical visit due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Missed care was more common among children ≥2 years compared to <2 years (aPR 1.82; 95%CI 1.47–2.26) and Hispanics compared to non-Hispanic Whites (aPR 1.31; 95%CI 1.14–1.51). A third of parents (33.1%; 95%CI 30.7–35.5) reported their child had missed a vaccination. Compared to the 2019-20 flu season, pediatric influenza vaccination decreased in 2020–21 (51.3% vs. 62.2%; p < 0.0001). A high proportion of US children ≤12 years missed routine pediatric care during the COVID-19 pandemic. Catch-up efforts are needed to ensure continuity of preventive care for all children. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,816 Posted June 30 Author Report Share Posted June 30 Your link proves absolutely nothing mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,611 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, Francie, said: Your link proves absolutely nothing mate No it didn't say from two up FFS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,611 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 You are clueless Francie, SIDS is the sudden death of children less than one year old. This is all you do, you put out a post, and then when it's explained to you you move the goalposts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,816 Posted June 30 Author Report Share Posted June 30 Just now, Pardus said: No it didn't say from two up FFS. Read your link it says 2years for pediatric care,it does not specify what care or which vaccinations an it definitely doesn't mention 2 to 4 month old babies,an there was 2100 mothers surveyed,that nowhere near represent the whole of the USA an can not be extrapolated to the claim which the article states that there was a drop in childhood vaccinations,your article is shit an false Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,611 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 Just now, Francie, said: Read your link it says 2years for pediatric care,it does not specify what care or which vaccinations an it definitely doesn't mention 2 to 4 month old babies,an there was 2100 mothers surveyed,that nowhere near represent the whole of the USA an can not be extrapolated to the claim which the article states that there was a drop in childhood vaccinations,your article is shit an false You don't have a clue what you are talking about I'm afraid. The article is about SIDS, SIDS occurs in infants up to 12 months old, not two years and above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,816 Posted June 30 Author Report Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, Pardus said: You are clueless Francie, SIDS is the sudden death of children less than one year old. This is all you do, you put out a post, and then when it's explained to you you move the goalposts. Hahahaha you haven't explained nada,you pit up an article that was supposed to show how the supposed drop in vaccination rates (which your article clearly does not show) supported the claim that vaccines are not linked to sids. Your article is waffle just over 2000 women were surveyed,that's not a rightful claim,you would have to surveyed every mother in the US to make the claim that your article claims that childhood vaccinations dropped Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,611 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 I'll explain just for you, all it says is that children aged two and over were more likely to miss their vaccines than those two and under. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,816 Posted June 30 Author Report Share Posted June 30 2 minutes ago, Pardus said: You don't have a clue what you are talking about I'm afraid. The article is about SIDS, SIDS occurs in infants up to 12 months old, not two years and above. What are you waffling about mate,I said your article does not mention anything about young babies especially 2 to 4 months old,an says feck all about mmr vaccination,it merely says about pediatric care for two years old an flu jabs for teen,do you even read your link Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,816 Posted June 30 Author Report Share Posted June 30 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Pardus said: I'll explain just for you, all it says is that children aged two and over were more likely to miss their vaccines than those two and under. Yes for the 2100 mothers that were surveyed not the whole of the USA so your article proves feck all. You back to the topic,how does your article support the claim there's no link between 2 an 4 month old vaccinations an sids? Your were counting on me not clicking the statistic link in your article were you,try harder next time mate Edited June 30 by Francie, 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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