Pigeon shooting permission

[jultaylor1972 2]

I’ve been offered some pigeon shooting permission at the local harbour . In order to get a signed, sealed and delivered deal I have to provide a risk assessment as to how its going to be done and how Im going to make it safe when I go. Apparently they had some lads there a while back who shot one of the nearby residents cats and there was an uproar at the time – this is the rationale for having to provide a risk assessment. So, has anyone got any suggestions as to what I should put together to show that I’m safe and trustworthy? Thanks in advance.

[roller 0]

are you at all familliar to 'on site risk assesments' of any kind ? if not i'll draft a copy and Email it to you, you'll have to alter or fill in what applys to you, and your surroundings though, shouldn't be that hard, are you insured? that will be a must if they're asking for a risk assesment.

[jultaylor1972 2]

are you at all familliar to 'on site risk assesments' of any kind ? if not i'll draft a copy and Email it to you, you'll have to alter or fill in what applys to you, and your surroundings though, shouldn't be that hard, are you insured? that will be a must if they're asking for a risk assesment.

Oh thats so very kind of you! I am insured - luckily. CSA membership. Im very familiar with 'risk assessments' as Im a nurse but 'On site risk assessments' are a new one to me. I'd be very grateful if you could send me a PM with the relevant info or post it on here. Thanks again.

[Deker 3,478]

"to show that I’m safe and trustworthy?"

 

A risk assessment in these circumstances will relate very largeley to the environment, neighbours, backstops, pellet travel etc etc, your personal competance will only form a small part of it! A well prepared Risk Assessment will show your professionalism, and tell them far more about you than writing pages telling them how good you are!

 

Hopefully Roller will be able to help you here but you may also find some more help if you trawl around the web!

 

Cheers

Deker

[john b 38]

are you at all familliar to 'on site risk assesments' of any kind ? if not i'll draft a copy and Email it to you, you'll have to alter or fill in what applys to you, and your surroundings though, shouldn't be that hard, are you insured? that will be a must if they're asking for a risk assesment.

 

Roller - is that something you could consider posting as an FAQ ? might be useful to a lot of people

[SteveieP 0]

The risk assessment is required under Regulation 3 of the Management of Health & Safety at Work regulations 1999 & in particular Reg' 3 (1) ( the risk to persons not in your employment (& in your case this will include the public at large.)

Sounds like you need a bit of a cross betwean a method statement & a risk assesment or probably both.

Gotta show there's method in your madness & that the public aren't at risk.

Normally, I'd take me lawyer head off at this point, but they make me keep it on when I'm at work...like now. LOL

[roller 0]

Ok guys i'm no H&S expert , but I do run my own company, and deal with risk assesments day in day out [we're tree surgeons]

 

JohnB if I send a copy to you could you post it where relevent, thanks.

 

As Deker rightly says , on site risk assesments are exactly that, I have heard them called 'site specific risk assesments' before. what I will do is knock up two copys, one will be blank the other filled in ie a fictional shoot, i've seen lots of risk assesments over the years and tailor make mine to fit different circumstances. If you see something on my blank risk assesment feel free to change it to suit your needs. 99% of whats on a risk assesment is just plain old common sence.

 

John and Julia please send me your email address, thanks

 

 

SteveieP spot on most risk assesments are a cross between a method statemen and risk assesment, what they want to see, sorry to contradict you mate is that 'the general public' are at risk, but you are competant to minimise it.

Edited January 14, 2008 by roller

[RatSnatcher 0]

are you at all familliar to 'on site risk assesments' of any kind ? if not i'll draft a copy and Email it to you, you'll have to alter or fill in what applys to you, and your surroundings though, shouldn't be that hard, are you insured? that will be a must if they're asking for a risk assesment.

 

Roller - is that something you could consider posting as an FAQ ? might be useful to a lot of people

 

 

that a good idea

[andy s410c 62]

Hi jules,i take it your shooting in the Port of Blyth with you being from the drugs capital of the North East??

[jultaylor1972 2]

Hi jules,i take it your shooting in the Port of Blyth with you being from the drugs capital of the North East??

[jultaylor1972 2]

I’ve been offered some pigeon shooting permission at the local harbour . In order to get a signed, sealed and delivered deal I have to provide a risk assessment as to how its going to be done and how Im going to make it safe when I go. Apparently they had some lads there a while back who shot one of the nearby residents cats and there was an uproar at the time – this is the rationale for having to provide a risk assessment. So, has anyone got any suggestions as to what I should put together to show that I’m safe and trustworthy? Thanks in advance.

Anyone??

[BRY 79]

if i knew how to attach a copy of mine i'd send it u

 

Bry

[jultaylor1972 2]

Ive just devised a risk assessment for the pigeon shooting. I'd really appreciate any comments, negative and positive as Im intending to hand in the document in the next week. Thanks to all.

 

Risk Assessment for control of pests (Pigeons) with air rifles.

 

 

Location: ________________.

Hazards: Possible injury to people and/ or damage to property.

Who might be affected: Employees, public, nearby residents.

What control measures are in place:

 

· Safety procedures detailed in BASC codes of practice will always be followed.

· Prior to any use of the air rifles, a detailed search of the area will be undertaken and all safe and unsafe areas of control will be identified.

· Specified persons will be notified when the pest control is to take place and when it has finished. The pests to be controlled will be defined prior to the visit. These visits will only take place at the weekend.

· _____________ will be left in the same manner in which it was found and there will be no deliberate damage caused.

· All persons using air rifles at the _________ will be competent in shooting ability, rifle safety, rifle maintenance, protective equipment and topography of the area.

· All rifles and scopes used will be zeroed prior to arriving in order to commence pest control. Only identifiable targets will be fired at.

· No shooting will take place from the roadside.

· There will be no use of lamp on or near public roads, which presents a danger to road users.

· Local police will be informed of shooting that is to take place.

· Any incidents will be reported to the land owner. A mobile phone will be carried at all times throughout the pest control.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Assessment completed by:

 

 

Risk Rating:

 

 

Review Date:

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

What control measures are in place:

 

· Safety procedures detailed in BASC codes of practice will always be followed.

 

· All persons using air rifles at the _________ will be competent in shooting ability, rifle safety, rifle maintenance, protective equipment and topography of the area.

 

 

Those are the two points I'd question straight away, Jules.

 

First one is simply coverable with " Appendix 1 ", giving that Code of Practice. (I trust none of the rest of ye statement is already covered in it? Otherwise, why repeat yeself?)

 

Point about " Competence ". I took a one day course in Air Weapon Safety and Handling and have a Certificate to Say I'm Competent. But then, I was judged by Professional Gun People.

 

Not out to knock ye, love. But someone may ask; Who declared You " Competent " and who says who you fetch along is " Competent "? You? You competent of making that decision?

 

See; I'm Certified Competent. But that doesn't give me any right to Train you and declare You so. See what I'm saying?

 

If that feels awkward now, how about considering something more like, say; " Anyone else will be under my direct supervision at all times and whom I consider to be demonstrably responsable. " ? Something a bit more like that. Put the onus more on ye own judgement and less toward something more tangable that some b*stard may pick up on to try and veto the whole idea on.

 

I'm taking it as read, by the way, that No. 2 Gun there will also be every bit as Insured and otherwise arse covered as you will be? In fact; I can't help but wonder why ye'd Want anyone else carrying a gun with ye? A Picker Up? Sure. But who picks up for Two active shots? Way that's worded, you're leaving it wide open to turn up with a whole damn posse of rifle swinging mates. That's how my cold, dead eye sees it anyway.

 

And I've got nothing against ye. Who knows what the Veggie members of the Council will spot to pick on? Try to give Them nothing.

 

 

Oh; And I'd bump the bit about Informing the Police when ye going to Start ~ and when ye've finished, and are leaving the site ~ a bit higher up. Don't relegate the most important facet of Your Own personal safety to an almost after thought.

 

Ye HAVE had any rifles intended for use there Chronographed? Yeah?

 

 

Finally ~ till I stop typing and think some more ~ I know of a guy who can do ye some Superb Hi Viz Vests. Get " Enviromental Services " or something emblazoned on the back. About a tenner. Makes shit differance to ye target. But it sure goes a way to putting peoples minds at rest when they see ye light up like an electric lemon as ye walk beneath or into a light. May help distract their eye from the long in ye hand too. Either way; Good practice and, again, keeps ye safer at night

[jultaylor1972 2]

At last!! Some answers Ditch, I really appreciate your comments Im open to constructive criticism if it means its right! Ive taken your comments on board and have modified the risk assessment. Comments from other likeminded people will be very much appreciated.