desertbred 5,490 Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 English votes for English laws The question I have been asked consistently since the Government withdrew its proposals to amend the Hunting Act in July in response to the SNP's decision to vote against the changes is why Defra did not wait until the implementation of English Votes for English Laws (EVEL). The new rules are supposed to restrict the involvement of Scottish and Welsh MPs in Westminster on issues which are devolved to legislatures in their countries, and if Scottish MPs had been excluded from the vote on the Hunting Act the law would have been changed. The answer, I am afraid, is that those new rules are a misnomer, they do not restrict any MPs from voting on any Statutory Instrument which amends existing legislation, nor do they stop any MP from voting on the crucial final stages of any new legislation.The futility of EVEL was emphasised last week when the SNP did a similar u-turn on the Government’s proposal to allow shops to open for longer on Sundays and equalize Sunday trading laws North and South of the border. EVEL did not stop SNP MPs voting down the Government’s plans and inflicting a humiliating defeat. As with the amendments to the Hunting Act this was about politics, not principle, with one SNP MP admitting “My default position is that we should do everything to maximise the Government’s discomfort”.The day after Scotland voted to remain in the union David Cameron stood on the steps of 10 Downing Street and said: “I have long believed that a crucial part missing from this national discussion is England. We have heard the voice of Scotland - and now the millions of voices of England must also be heard. The question of English votes for English laws - the so-called West Lothian question - requires a decisive answer.”There are perfectly good arguments both for and against the involvement of Scottish and Welsh MPs in issues which do not directly affect their constituents, but what there is no justification for is claiming to have done something which you have not. Unfortunately the events of last week prove one thing decisively: that the West Lothian question still has not been answered.Tim BonnerChief ExecutiveFollow on Twitter @CA_TimB Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 politics is all about politicians, real life is what the rest of us get on with doing, until the politicians do something that directly effects us, by then its to late. Quote Link to post
Stud dog 632 Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 Its whats good for them c**ts not us Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted March 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Does the whole campaign for Amending/repealing the Hunting with Dogs Act need to be re planned as it is abundantly clear that the luke warm efforts of Cameron and Co have been shown by the Statement of Mr Bonner to be distorted or even down right dishonest regarding the SNP and like minded groups being unable to vote on existing Laws Acts or ammendments if they only effect England. 3 Quote Link to post
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