Ps Washers

[Rez 4,961]

Just a quick question or thought here. I've just this evening stripped my PS (god it's easy compared to the HW models) and found that it had 3 pre load washers...

 

Thoughts? Is this in all? I'm planning taking two out, but do they all come with 3?

 

Nice one.

[bigmac 97kt 13,837]

First off Tim how you keeping bud not heard from you in a while .

 

and secondly iv just order,d another pro sport to day in 177 and with a beach stock this time not wall nut

 

i just cant keep away from them mate i did go to the rfd to get a hw77 but could not walk away from the pro sport lol and iv still got some of the washers you sent me so they will be going strait in to the stock .

 

hope your well mate

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

[bigmac 97kt 13,837]

Tim im keeping this one the trouble with the other two was the stocks were to nice all ways frightened in case they got marked or fell over if i had them leaning against the fence or some thing .

 

but with the beach ill not be so fussy and that there a lot less money lol.

 

And the last three times out i should of stayed in the house

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

[bigmac 97kt 13,837]

Now there,s a thing ,,,,brushes .......tools................ :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BLACK PRO,SPORT

 

 

 

 

atvbmac

[bigmac 97kt 13,837]

Stay with the wood look!

At last I've got a decent man cave! The old shed was ok but now I've got a 26ft X 15ft stone built workshop/barn with decent power and light, room to put a woodburner in and a 3 acre plinking range across the lane at the bottom of the garden.

Got to keep the Mrs happy though so painting and building bookcases comes first.

Got to keep her indoors happy mate.

 

3 acre plinking range :hmm:

 

get a load of targets up charge a £5er and bobs your uncle money in the bank :D

 

and dont worry im staying with the wood mate

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

[Rez 4,961]

Sowa. Back to the subject. Bloody flirtin.

 

Stripped, cleaned and re assembled. There is a slight twang developed, it's fine like, got a TbT kit coming but what are your thoughts as to where it might be coming from. The rifle is clean and smooth on the inside as both of my HW's. Got your seal in Mac, fits like a dream. Not crono'd yet, but there is no recoil. None.

 

But a slight twang. Thoughts?

 

Thanks in advance.

[bigmac 97kt 13,837]

Sowa. Back to the subject. Bloody flirtin.

 

Stripped, cleaned and re assembled. There is a slight twang developed, it's fine like, got a TbT kit coming but what are your thoughts as to where it might be coming from. The rifle is clean and smooth on the inside as both of my HW's. Got your seal in Mac, fits like a dream. Not crono'd yet, but there is no recoil. None.

 

But a slight twang. Thoughts?

 

Thanks in advance.

Sounds stupid Rez but did you put enough grease on the spring :hmm:

 

Or crono her to see what she is doing since you fitted the v mach piston seal you may have to take one of the washers out after all or put one back in if you have taken one out all ready just a thought

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

[Rez 4,961]

Perhaps I didn't. I'll re look at it now. I've found this post by timmmmmmmehhhhhh on the aa forums as it happens. I'm not worried at all. The rifle is so smooth, it's just the sound. It's a good suggestions mac. How much grease is the next question?

 

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Hi Homer, I didn't see your thread because I've been away, otherwise I would've chipped in before!

It looks like you've solved the problem now anyway, there's nothing difficult to sorting it, it's just a shame that AA won't pull their finger out and sort out these recurring problems on existing models before ploughing £thousands on developing new models.

Quality of lube and poor spring/spring guide fit and quality of finish seems to be an issue on quite a few AA springers over the last year, almost like they're using up odds and ends left in the parts bins.

Standard parts and decent lube produce good results but can be improved on slightly, a delrin guide turned to match the spring internal diameter is a good place to start as is experimenting with top hat weight, I find a lighter pellet responds well to a lighter top hat than standard but you really need to experiment to find what suits your gun.

If you have power washers fitted it often pays to remove 1 or 2 and replace with thinner delrin or nylon washers but put them at both ends of the spring as a cushion between guide, top hat and spring, this can really quieten a PS and soften the cycle.

[bigmac 97kt 13,837]

Perhaps I didn't. I'll re look at it now. I've found this post by timmmmmmmehhhhhh on the aa forums as it happens. I'm not worried at all. The rifle is so smooth, it's just the sound. It's a good suggestions mac. How much grease is the next question?

 

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Hi Homer, I didn't see your thread because I've been away, otherwise I would've chipped in before!

It looks like you've solved the problem now anyway, there's nothing difficult to sorting it, it's just a shame that AA won't pull their finger out and sort out these recurring problems on existing models before ploughing £thousands on developing new models.

Quality of lube and poor spring/spring guide fit and quality of finish seems to be an issue on quite a few AA springers over the last year, almost like they're using up odds and ends left in the parts bins.

Standard parts and decent lube produce good results but can be improved on slightly, a delrin guide turned to match the spring internal diameter is a good place to start as is experimenting with top hat weight, I find a lighter pellet responds well to a lighter top hat than standard but you really need to experiment to find what suits your gun.

If you have power washers fitted it often pays to remove 1 or 2 and replace with thinner delrin or nylon washers but put them at both ends of the spring as a cushion between guide, top hat and spring, this can really quieten a PS and soften the cycle.

How much grease now that is the question , :hmm: not to much but not to little ether

 

it will be a case of trial and error until you get it right its one of those things you ether get it first time or a few times lol

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

[Rez 4,961]

Mate. It's sorted. Stripped again, in about 3 mins. Greased up, not to much not to little. Twang is gone. Recoil is the same. None.

 

Nice one mac. Yet again.

 

X

[bigmac 97kt 13,837]

Mate. It's sorted. Stripped again, in about 3 mins. Greased up, not to much not to little. Twang is gone. Recoil is the same. None.

 

Nice one mac. Yet again.

 

X

Top dog :boogy:

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

[vizlauk 1,568]

Sowa. Back to the subject. Bloody flirtin.

Stripped, cleaned and re assembled. There is a slight twang developed, it's fine like, got a TbT kit coming but what are your thoughts as to where it might be coming from. The rifle is clean and smooth on the inside as both of my HW's. Got your seal in Mac, fits like a dream. Not crono'd yet, but there is no recoil. None.

But a slight twang. Thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

You should have saved your money mate the tbt tuning kits I tried were u/s, poorly made , bad fitting , put 2 sets in the bin, I would not recommend fitting them to any gun, my tx was much better standard , if you do decide to try the kits, make sure that the washers don't get stuck & that the spring guide runs smoothly on the spring and guides, but remember ! You wasting your time !

[Rez 4,961]

Thanks for the replies about the TbT kit. It only cost me 20 quid so if it's a not go, no love lost. I'll get some images of it up on the end of this thread when it arrives.

 

Timmy. Bang on way of describing it... A 'buzz' it's doesn't actually sound like that. A chaps TX at the club sounds bloody awful, but god its accurate.

 

Is there such a spring cover? The same that comes with the v-Mach kits?

[Rez 4,961]

Nice one. I'll look into it.

[Rez 4,961]

As an update.

 

I've found the best combination of bits for the PS to be the TbT delrin spring guide (which all arrived today), steel AA top hat and no power washer at all. Proper lubed up, smooth spring ends. At the minute output @10.8-9 ish, got that feeling it could creep up a tad, but not much. Overall, real good parts to the TbT kit, even though I've only used one, still 18 quid well spent. Power washers are so tight on the guide, they won't fit to the bottom. Guide itself couldn't be a better fit for the spring to be honest. Top hat was ok...but felt the steel one kept with the rifles lazy shooting cycle, which I like. I bought it for this reason. The two HW's are fast and snappy compared.

 

Kinda sweet and sharp 'thock' sound with a predictable nudge. Not made 'that' much of a difference, maybe in my head they have, so it'll be a confidence thing. The rifle in a way, feels a tad lighter and more point able.

 

I'd recommend them, but there not essential.