Guest bullterrier Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 A 11 YEAR OLD BOY WAS SHOT DEAD LASTNIGHT IN CROXETH LIVERPOOL BY ANOTHER YOUNG LAD ON A BMX WHATS THE WORLD COMING TO ...JOHN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Been following it on the news mate, sickener! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullterrier Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 SAD BUT TRUE BUT YOU CAN BUY GUNS VERY CHEAP NOW OR RENT THEM BRING BACK HANGING ...JOHN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ginga john 268 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 SAD BUT TRUE BUT YOU CAN BUY GUNS VERY CHEAP NOW OR RENT THEM BRING BACK HANGING ...JOHN sorry john but its not the guns its the people behind them, old quote i know, why do these kids think its ok to go and settle a grievance with a gun? what ever happened to the good o'l straightener in the park? every kid has a at least one parent in attendance so it seems a complete lack of respect for themselves and any one else is to blame. If they have knives then the smaller kids want guns etc etc, if the young uns walking around with guns got an instant stretch, no leniancy for a broken home etc, then in a very short time the problem would be drastically reduced. The real issue is that we have a police force that is a bunch of total shit houses, forget your house burgled, your dogs or car nicked, or any other "soft crime" but go 5 mph over the speed limit and they surface like worms in a rain storm total wan***s. Who gave a kid on a bmx a gun? who never taught him to respect people, children especially, theres more to blame than a gun. rant over, thanks for reading. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Where do you start? It's a different world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullterrier Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 SAD BUT TRUE BUT YOU CAN BUY GUNS VERY CHEAP NOW OR RENT THEM BRING BACK HANGING ...JOHN sorry john but its not the guns its the people behind them, old quote i know, why do these kids think its ok to go and settle a grievance with a gun? what ever happened to the good o'l straightener in the park? every kid has a at least one parent in attendance so it seems a complete lack of respect for themselves and any one else is to blame. If they have knives then the smaller kids want guns etc etc, if the young uns walking around with guns got an instant stretch, no leniancy for a broken home etc, then in a very short time the problem would be drastically reduced. The real issue is that we have a police force that is a bunch of total shit houses, forget your house burgled, your dogs or car nicked, or any other "soft crime" but go 5 mph over the speed limit and they surface like worms in a rain storm total wan***s. Who gave a kid on a bmx a gun? who never taught him to respect people, children especially, theres more to blame than a gun. rant over, thanks for reading. Where do you start? It's a different world. i live just around the corner from that last clip scum bags bring shame to this city i know it happens else were but capital of culture my ass ...john Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacob 28 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 FFS ,cowardly little boys who cant fight ,so they get tooled up,snotty nosed little pricks need a proper beating about the head with them feckin guns. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 FFS ,cowardly little boys who cant fight ,so they get tooled up,snotty nosed little pricks need a proper beating about the head with them feckin guns. Agreed 100%. But, I am and have been a Doorman for near enough 25 years now, am not trying to crack on that I'm the Big Man either, but these little b*****ds hunt in packs, I had a bit of a do with 5 or 6 of their type a few weeks ago, even in their gang they wouldn't have it, but the snidey little twats waited until I was going and chucked a full bottle of beer at the front screen of my Land Rover, it smashed the screen, of course I got out again and gripped one of them he did all the "it wasn't me mister shit"........... what was I supposed to do? Smash his head in, get caught and stand in front of a Magistrate, me 42 years old, 6 foot 1 and 16 stone, him 14/15, about 9 stone ................. I'd have lost my SIA badge straight away, no more Doors for me then ............. The world is all f****d up. And the problem is they breed like wildfire, seen all those horrible little girls pushing prams around, just more scum that are the ruin of this once great nation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jasper65 6 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 just found this one which looks like a piss take of the lads above . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IXTEbeHOY8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 we need the government and the liberal elite that run this country to have a change of perspective. People blame the police, they just enforce the law, they dont make it! We need stronger penalties and more prison spaces, we need (a lot wont like this) an armed police force.(we pay about 8 billion a year in penalties to the EU not to have an armed police force-armed police was part of the EU agreement for european security against terrorists etc..britain renages on that aspect and is fined annually using our taxes) Then when there is some shit with an illegal gun, the police will go in and arrest or shoot him, the courts will then send him to prison using the stronger penalties and the more prison spaces, Or what we have now, police arrive and wait a mile away for armed support, then when that arrives they move in, by which time the victims died (no ambulances allowed in either without the armed cop-paramedics dont want to die either-neither does the un-armed cop) and the suspects have escaped!! I know there would be problems with arming the police, but look at how easy illegal guns are, and without something drastic, its going to just get harder to get legal guns as teh government will just restrict SGC and FAC applications more and look at Air rifle laws etc.....rather than tackling the feral youths and the open borders that allow the access of guns from europe . This country needs to change its perspective, towards crime and towards guns! Guns dont kill people, people do! Compo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullterrier Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 we need the government and the liberal elite that run this country to have a change of perspective. People blame the police, they just enforce the law, they dont make it! We need stronger penalties and more prison spaces, we need (a lot wont like this) an armed police force.(we pay about 8 billion a year in penalties to the EU not to have an armed police force-armed police was part of the EU agreement for european security against terrorists etc..britain renages on that aspect and is fined annually using our taxes) Then when there is some shit with an illegal gun, the police will go in and arrest or shoot him, the courts will then send him to prison using the stronger penalties and the more prison spaces, Or what we have now, police arrive and wait a mile away for armed support, then when that arrives they move in, by which time the victims died (no ambulances allowed in either without the armed cop-paramedics dont want to die either-neither does the un-armed cop) and the suspects have escaped!! I know there would be problems with arming the police, but look at how easy illegal guns are, and without something drastic, its going to just get harder to get legal guns as teh government will just restrict SGC and FAC applications more and look at Air rifle laws etc.....rather than tackling the feral youths and the open borders that allow the access of guns from europe . This country needs to change its perspective, towards crime and towards guns! Guns dont kill people, people do! Compo well said mate ...john Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacob 28 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 weve had armed police for years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 weve had armed police for years no we haven't, we have armed response units......a little fact here on an average saturday night how many armed response vehicles in the entire Metropolitan area (london)??? 3 Thats 3 cars with 3 officers in each with a gun a piece, then they wonder why so many get shot in the ghettot that is south London and how we are such an easy target for terrorists. What i am on about and what we are paying the EU not to have is an Armed police force like the french and germans have, then we may be in a position to stop kids like the 11year old in Liverpool from dieing, and at least attend the incidents and administer first aid within minutes rather than waiting for an armed response unit and then allowing the paramedics to give first aid 30 minutes later, by which time the kids died? http://www.blink.org.uk/pdescription.asp?key=6632&grp=55 The above wouldn't have ended like it did if the police had been in a position to attend immediately with guns to meet guns, fight fire with fire, or stay as we have a police service too ineffective due to not having the right tools! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacob 28 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 armed response units are the police .theres plenty of other coppers with guns as well.if youre talking about arming every bobby on the beat,not a good idea Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacob 28 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 FFS ,cowardly little boys who cant fight ,so they get tooled up,snotty nosed little pricks need a proper beating about the head with them feckin guns. Agreed 100%. But, I am and have been a Doorman for near enough 25 years now, am not trying to crack on that I'm the Big Man either, but these little b*****ds hunt in packs, I had a bit of a do with 5 or 6 of their type a few weeks ago, even in their gang they wouldn't have it, but the snidey little twats waited until I was going and chucked a full bottle of beer at the front screen of my Land Rover, it smashed the screen, of course I got out again and gripped one of them he did all the "it wasn't me mister shit"........... what was I supposed to do? Smash his head in, get caught and stand in front of a Magistrate, me 42 years old, 6 foot 1 and 16 stone, him 14/15, about 9 stone ................. I'd have lost my SIA badge straight away, no more Doors for me then ............. The world is all f****d up. And the problem is they breed like wildfire, seen all those horrible little girls pushing prams around, just more scum that are the ruin of this once great nation. 42 year old doorman with 25 years experience driving his shiny new discovery to work you should know better mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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