patterdale collapsed

[edzy 3]

Has anyone had a dog collapse on them before? i drove up to the lake district to pick up a dog advertised on epupz hes a 3 year old patterdale called DUKE lovely dog head like a shoe box and very proud standing unfortunately for the previous owner he had just separated from his wife and was moving into rented accommodation and couldnt keep him and lucky for me i got him in my kennels now with my two bitches one jack russel and a patterdale. Well after four days of having him and him not eating much i guess hes taking his time to settle in , i take my dogs out every day for execise and duke the new boy isnt quite as fit as my 2 bitches and after about 45 minutes of running about for him he just ceased up and dropped in the field yelping in pain and at first i thought he had broke a leg so i ran over to him to see what was wrong after checking him out i realised he was just cramping up after all the running he was doing so i massaged his back legs and off he went for about another 100 yards then he was down again but this time he was in a bad way all i can desciibe it as is some one having a fit and it scared the shit out of me his eyes were rolling in his head and when he could just about stand he looked like a sheep with gid, so i got back to the farm as quick as i could and got some warm milk and plenty of sugar in a jug and started syringeing it down his neck coz he was in no state to feed himself it took about half an hour til he could drink him self and when he did he drank half a bowl of water after 2 hours of being semi concious he started to look a bit better and i got him to eat a bit of food. i have put his ordeal down to not eating for days and running himself literally into the ground, so i have learned a big lesson let the dog settle in to his new enviroment and give him walking time before he runs.

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Edited August 20, 2007 by edzy

[higgins 75]

Has anyone had a dog collapse on them before? i drove up to the lake district to pick up a dog advertised on epupz hes a 3 year old patterdale called DUKE lovely dog head like a shoe box and very proud standing unfortunately for the previous owner he had just separated from his wife and was moving into rented accommodation and couldnt keep him and lucky for me i got him in my kennels now with my two bitches one jack russel and a patterdale. Well after four days of having him and him not eating much i guess hes taking his time to settle in , i take my dogs out every day for execise and duke the new boy isnt quite as fit as my 2 bitches and after about 45 minutes of running about for him he just ceased up and dropped in the field yelping in pain and at first i thought he had broke a leg so i ran over to him to see what was wrong after checking him out i realised he was just cramping up after all the running he was doing so i massaged his back legs and off he went for about another 100 yards then he was down again but this time he was in a bad way all i can desciibe it as is some one having a fit and it scared the shit out of me his eyes were rolling in his head and when he could just about stand he looked like a sheep with gid, so i got back to the farm as quick as i could and got some warm milk and plenty of sugar in a jug and started syringeing it down his neck coz he was in no state to feed himself it took about half an hour til he could drink him self and when he did he drank half a bowl of water after 2 hours of being semi concious he started to look a bit better and i got him to eat a bit of food. i have put his ordeal down to not eating for days and running himself literally into the ground, so i have learned a big lesson let the dog settle in to his new enviroment and give him walking time before he runs.

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seen a few terriers collapsing in various situations,never got to find out the reasons for all of them,one

was on a dig(although at the time i put it down to fear),once while a terrier was mating(that one scared the shit out of me!)although he was fine after that,another time was obvious,it had almost strangled on a washing line after the other dog ran round him catching his lead and effectively stringing him up,after a bit of mouth to mouth(i know!) and a heart massage he came back to life and was fine after that,sort of?

Higgins.

[THE POACHER 13]

last season one of my mates black dog collapsed after a 3 1/2 hour dig in avery very big place dog was running around for around 3 hours dog was exhausted i shit my self as he was at work and we had borrowed the dog

[ferret15 0]

it sounds like azoturia (cramps) most common in horses but dose occur in dogs

 

 

http://www.wiwfarm.com/azoturia.htm

 

here is a link to a site that sells amp5 its a paste that is supposed to control it i dont know if it works i have never used it i had a horse that suffered from this if it wasn't managed properly (diet and electrolites) but had no problems competing him in endurance as long as we managed it properly

 

http://www.k9worlduk.com/shop.php?page=shop&cat_id=2

 

edited to say if you would like any more info pm me

Edited August 19, 2007 by ferret15

[dannyboy1 2]

do you have a pic of the dog?

[magus69 0]

Sounds like Ferret15's diagnosis is a pretty good one.

As for why it happened you correctly explain that yourself out of condition and undernourished. If I were to run for over 45 minutes in the muggy heat we've been experiencing I would probably be worse and I'm over nourished.

Carry a bottle of made up Diorolyte (electrolite drink in powder form) with you and make sure the dogs eating the right sort of stuff and let him build up his fitness and hopefully you'll not experience anymore problems.

God I bet it freaked you though, thankfully you didn't panic and did the right thing give yourself a pat on the back it could have ended up being much worse. Mike...

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

God I bet it freaked you though, thankfully you didn't panic and did the right thing give yourself a pat on the back it could have ended up being much worse.

 

 

God, That hit the mark! What a great thing to come out with. Honest to god, it's the bits like this that keep me here. The guy had a problem. He sent out a plea for help and seems to have got some straight down the line advice back there. Then a simple comment like that; The icing on the cake. Real F*cking Fellowship!

 

F*ck the braggards, the idiots, the down right sadists. When I see That sort of simple, human level of camararderie expressed in a post ....? That just made my night!

[mussells 0]

well said ditch! its nice to know there are some good people out there among the show off,s!

glad the dogs ok mate

[ferret15 0]

well said ditch! its nice to know there are some good people out there among the show off,s!

glad the dogs ok mate

 

 

i hope that isn't aimed at me i answered as this is something i have dealt with in the past, and no one else seemed forthcoming i thought this is what this place is about (somewhere to share information with like minded people) i know i have learned a lot from people on this site and would hate to think that someone wouldn't answer a question for fear of being called a show off

[mussells 0]

no mate not at all,i just meant the few on here who like to lets say express views that arent really needed,

your advise spot on its always good to here from knoledgable(spelling) peolpe.

Edited August 20, 2007 by mussells

[steezy 1]

Could be Epilepsie ( the name in Germany , don´t know the english word ) ! my old pit got it and the dog´s got no pain !

he also diidn´t know what happend or were he is ! he could bite you if you touch him when he got a attack but he don´t wanna bite you , he know nothing afterwards of the attack !

maybe he fell of the site and hit with his leg´s and maybe shit and piss ( my one don´t , but few do ) roll with the eye´s and make noise like he´s dreaming in sleep !

Go tothe vet , he can give you pill´s against it , if it is that !

Greeting´s

Steezy

[THE POACHER 13]

no mate not at all,i just meant the few on here who like to lets say express views that arent really needed,

your advise spot on its always good to here from knoledgable(spelling) peolpe.

 

 

mussels as i was the only one who said about another dog collapsing you must be getting at me if you got a problem just come out and say it

 

the point i was getting across was the dog simply was not fit enough

[Guest SHOT]

the point i was getting across was the dog simply was not fit enough

tis what i was thinking myself had it years back with a terrier it hadnt been out in a while then it was let loose on a farm for a few hours hoping to flush some bits out for the lurcher, till she hit the deck smack bang in the middle of a feild, wouldnt budge stand for anyone.

ive had a dog fitting something totaly different, body goes stiff shits itself ect ,not nice.

id sooner pts you could,nt work the dog again if its for digging..

[THE POACHER 13]

the point i was getting across was the dog simply was not fit enough

tis what i was thinking myself had it years back with a terrier it hadnt been out in a while then it was let loose on a farm for a few hours hoping to flush some bits out for the lurcher, till she hit the deck smack bang in the middle of a feild, wouldnt budge stand for anyone.

ive had a dog fitting something totaly different, body goes stiff shits itself ect ,not nice.

id sooner pts you could,nt work the dog again if its for digging..

 

 

the dog had been laid up for a few weeks was his 1st time back at work shouldnt of used him but thought it would of been a easy dig never had the same problem with the dog again has he is usually fit

[ferret15 0]

no mate not at all,i just meant the few on here who like to lets say express views that arent really needed,

your advise spot on its always good to here from knoledgable(spelling) peolpe.

 

ok sorry