Lurcher X Lurcher

[boyo 1,398]

boyo: it was a friend who used Poser over one of his bitches. The first bitch I bought from someone who had used a dog of Dick Finch's which Anne had bred several years before that. Sadly I never bred from her and she had to be put down at only 2 1/2 years old, but she'd bought all the good T shirts by then, and done it well.

The rough coated ones I have now are descended from both Anne's line and the friend's: little hairy mongrelly things they were, but useful in the field: going back a good few years now.

Can we asume that these little mongrelly things were of little use on hares, but ok for a few rabbits. Presume they were to small for fox, Were they any use on the lamp. Ive seen you with some stunning looking dogs thats won in shows, What were the breeding of these dogs, They certainly didnt look like little mongrelly things as you call them.

[boyo 1,398]

boyo: it was a friend who used Poser over one of his bitches. The first bitch I bought from someone who had used a dog of Dick Finch's which Anne had bred several years before that. Sadly I never bred from her and she had to be put down at only 2 1/2 years old, but she'd bought all the good T shirts by then, and done it well.

The rough coated ones I have now are descended from both Anne's line and the friend's: little hairy mongrelly things they were, but useful in the field: going back a good few years now.

What way did your friends bitchies, influence the family of lurchers? Were they any use on hare or were they lamping, or just mooching dogs? Would you say that the hairy little mongrelly things came from that side, Because Anns dogs did well at showing at Lamborne, Plus won racing events.Did the family improve with your knowledge of breeding,

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Edited June 22, 2016 by edrd

[skycat 6,174]

 

boyo: it was a friend who used Poser over one of his bitches. The first bitch I bought from someone who had used a dog of Dick Finch's which Anne had bred several years before that. Sadly I never bred from her and she had to be put down at only 2 1/2 years old, but she'd bought all the good T shirts by then, and done it well.

The rough coated ones I have now are descended from both Anne's line and the friend's: little hairy mongrelly things they were, but useful in the field: going back a good few years now.

Can we asume that these little mongrelly things were of little use on hares, but ok for a few rabbits. Presume they were to small for fox, Were they any use on the lamp. Ive seen you with some stunning looking dogs thats won in shows, What were the breeding of these dogs, They certainly didnt look like little mongrelly things as you call them.

I was being slightly tongue in cheek when I said mongrelly: the fact is that they were total mongrels, bred for work, but who knows what the breeding was. The parents of the friends mongrels were scruffy yard dogs: lurchers, but yard dogs on a farm. And yes, the two daughters he had caught no end of hares. I watched them running many times before the club ever existed. There wouldn't have been any Saluki in them, but they still caught hares on the fens, because they'd been brought up on hares: those two bitches knew more about hares than most dogs, and whilst they often ran doubled up, and without fair law, they were pot fillers who knew the game well. I've seen one wait for the other to bring a hare round in a huge circle covering several fields on the fens, before leaping in to end the run. But they could and did catch single handed as well; They knew to force a hare to the edge of a dyke and take it on the leap. It's just the way they were brought up, but he lamped them on rabbits as well.

 

One time I ran my own Collie bred bitch with one of them, and although my bitch wasn't anywhere near as experienced on hares, that hare never stood a chance because the two bitches closed it down and herded it, running wide, then funnelling in from both sides. It was a perfect display of team work from dogs that contained no Saluki at all, but not coursing as I see it, just pot filling. In those days there were more hares than you could imagine on those fens; you'd walk on to a field and several would get up straight away.

 

I saw one of those bitch's daughters run a hare one day. She saw it about 200 yards away, and started trotting towards it. The hare was watching her all the time, sitting up, and as she got to within about 100 yards of it, the hare started running, but not flat out. The bitch never upped her pace until she got to within about 50 yards of it, then they were both running hard. I don't call that a kick up, but a very interesting display of predator and prey. The bitch knew that if she went flat out to a hare that far away she'd be wasting energy for nothing, and the hare knew that it dared let her get to within a certain distance before putting its foot down properly.

 

I can't even remember if she caught that hare or not, but it was a super confident hare. She may well have caught it as she was so blindingly fast that she usually tied hares up in knots before they knew what was going on, and stamina to burn. Maybe not Saluki stamina, but plenty enough for a dog that knew hares inside out.

[juckler123 707]

Think thats the trick bring em up hares as soon as they are mature enough i started mine from Anne and at thirteen mths he would put a couple of turns in and come back tail wagging kept free running him daily and lamping him and at eighteen mths he was hardly missing he learnt quickly to go up steady and run at only the speed needed but i think most dogs given there head will do the same one thing with lurche to lurcher matings mouth generally throws through and that can be everything.

 

Show winner lol.

Edited February 9, 2013 by juckler123