New To Pcp :-)

[bandog 52]

Bandog. It wouldn't be worth your time or fuel on top of the value for the cylinder. Keep checking about the forums and one will fall in your lap mate.

 

Bide your time and don't rush into anything.

 

Stick up a wanted ad.

 

A pump is not my idea of fun. But I'm sure some hero will be along soon to say otherwise.

 

Ha ha ha I know what you mean a guy on a BSA site said its hard to fill it from empty so every time you go hunting too it up he made it look on the video like 20 pumps and it was full but have herd people say its a nightmare I might just buy a spare buddy get them both filled and wait till a tank pops up

 

Cheers for the advise fokes hopefully the hunting pics will follow soon

[moxy 617]

A tank will be money well spent. Give me a shout when you get a hose and gauge for it. I can do you a proper hose for a good price. None of this best fittings straw hose shite.

 

Look forward to your outings.

 

Atb

[bandog 52]

Ok mate thanks a lot pal ill be in touch ;-)

[secretagentmole 1,701]

Have a look at the BEST FITTINGS website. Everything you could possibly want for filling a PCP is there, and at the most competitive prices (unless you get given it).

 

S10 is a GREAT rifle. The power curve is a bit more pronounced than on more modern rifles, that is something you will have to find for yourself.NOBODY (other than the previous owner) can tell you.

 

Fill to about 180bar, shoot at a consistent target right through the pressure range down to about 110bar. Notice when thepoint of impact starts to drop off - it will drop more at further range sooner, so if you do this at 40 yards, you will discover the curve more easily. Try and borrow a chrono (get a friend with one) and note the velocity figures. If you fill a bit higher, say 190baror 200bar if the working pressure will allow it - depends what is written/stamped on your cylinder.

 

When you start shooting you will notice that the velocity starts off a little low - lets say it is 749 fps (.177) after about 10 shots the velocity will start to INCREASE. This is due to the pressure on the valve that the hammer has to overcome dropping...velocity will climb a few fps per shot, so say 758, 759, 761, 766, ........through the "sweet spot" of your rifle and the pressure IT WORKS BEST AT....788, 789, 787. 788, 788, 789, 786, 789,788, 788 788.....for about 40 shots, then the velocity will start to drop off again. ALL pcp rifles, unless regulated, go through this same curve of velocity, it is due to the pressure on the back of the valve and the weight of the hammer spring. The rifle needs to have these things "in balance" to work efficiently and it is a clever balancing act by the designers - transfer port size, valve length, spring weight, hammer weight and the pressure of the fill - they all work together to give you the required velocity. The better rifles have consistent velocity over a wider range of pressure - down to efficieny of the valve and hammer system.

 

You need to doa bit of experimentation to find this out - unless the previous owner can give you some short cuts,by way of knowledge from experimentation he did.

 

Not quite old chap, the Super 10 is regulated, so it has a constant supply at a constant pressure (well until you run out of air anyway)!

[secretagentmole 1,701]

If you want to know how to use a pump properly read and watch!

 

http://www.pyramydair.com/article/Using_a_hand_pump_May_2006/30

[bandog 52]

Have a look at the BEST FITTINGS website. Everything you could possibly want for filling a PCP is there, and at the most competitive prices (unless you get given it).

 

S10 is a GREAT rifle. The power curve is a bit more pronounced than on more modern rifles, that is something you will have to find for yourself.NOBODY (other than the previous owner) can tell you.

 

Fill to about 180bar, shoot at a consistent target right through the pressure range down to about 110bar. Notice when thepoint of impact starts to drop off - it will drop more at further range sooner, so if you do this at 40 yards, you will discover the curve more easily. Try and borrow a chrono (get a friend with one) and note the velocity figures. If you fill a bit higher, say 190baror 200bar if the working pressure will allow it - depends what is written/stamped on your cylinder.

 

When you start shooting you will notice that the velocity starts off a little low - lets say it is 749 fps (.177) after about 10 shots the velocity will start to INCREASE. This is due to the pressure on the valve that the hammer has to overcome dropping...velocity will climb a few fps per shot, so say 758, 759, 761, 766, ........through the "sweet spot" of your rifle and the pressure IT WORKS BEST AT....788, 789, 787. 788, 788, 789, 786, 789,788, 788 788.....for about 40 shots, then the velocity will start to drop off again. ALL pcp rifles, unless regulated, go through this same curve of velocity, it is due to the pressure on the back of the valve and the weight of the hammer spring. The rifle needs to have these things "in balance" to work efficiently and it is a clever balancing act by the designers - transfer port size, valve length, spring weight, hammer weight and the pressure of the fill - they all work together to give you the required velocity. The better rifles have consistent velocity over a wider range of pressure - down to efficieny of the valve and hammer system.

 

You need to doa bit of experimentation to find this out - unless the previous owner can give you some short cuts,by way of knowledge from experimentation he did.

 

Not quite old chap, the Super 10 is regulated, so it has a constant supply at a constant pressure (well until you run out of air anyway)!

 

Ha ha I was thinking that but I thought this chap knows his stuff don't argue just listen and learn

[bandog 52]

Cheers for the link mole

[Mawders 595]

Was going to say, I must have had a special addition S10 then because mine had a regulater fitted. ;-)

[Halfinch 51]

If you want to know how to use a pump properly read and watch!

 

http://www.pyramydair.com/article/Using_a_hand_pump_May_2006/30

 

He tried to make it look easy, because its his business, Notice he didn't show too many of the hard strokes.

"Now lets look at the gauge while I do this" LOL, the Gauge hardly moved.

Then he says, "that's all there is too it"

 

To be fair Moley, Pumps are ok if your just filling an average size cylinder once in a while, but If your going out to a range or having a good days target shooting and using a few hundred pellets, IMHO they are a bit of a pain, or if like me, you have a couple of rifles with spare cylinders and you fill them all at once (cause I couldn't be bothered when the first ones were empty) It is downright hard graft, especially if you only weigh 11 stone wet.

I guess a fat Fooker can just lean on it. Hehehehe