bandog 52 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 I have just got a nice BSA super 10 I need to go and get it charged tomorrow I am going to see if I can pick up a cheap tank to fill it my self does any one know any were cheap for the full adapters Are they the same on a BSA s10 buddy a paint ball buddy How do you guys rate them I know here fairly popular but they have some weight to them I have the mk3 bull barrel rifle but feels solid Just need to get it charged and get out hunting Quote Link to post
Halfinch 51 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Can't give you much advice about the S10 as ive never fired one, but I'm pretty sure as with most PCP's, It'll be more accurate than the shooter, Which brings me to my next point. How long have you been Shooting? What sort of groups do you shoot at about 25-30 meters. If you want to "go hunting" Make sure you are able to hit your target pretty much Every time, Better to practice on paper targets first than going out shooting all over creation and Injuring animals. Targets are fun too, make sure you've got a good backstop, and start with paper, then try different distances to show where your poi changes. Learning to shoot accuratly will bag you loads more than Popping the Occasional "lucky" one. First and foremost ENJOY your gun. ATB. Halfinch Quote Link to post
bandog 52 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Cheers mate tbh am a good shot I have never had a really good rifle thou I have had springer a lot of cheap ones as well tbh I have a custom ratty and a qb78 that's full power and I have had a fair amount of game I can get pellet on pellet at 30 yards with my qb78 lol so hoping to get the same at 40 with this new toy Thanks for the advise pal it's more the hpa filling I am needed help with I don't wsnt to spend loads more on tanks and thing I might go for a hand pump and just top the buddy up every time I use it and most the pcp guns I have seen have a quick full nipple or fill probe I take it I just ask for a BSA buddy bottle adapter to fit the pump when I go to buy my pump Unless any one has a hand pump set up ready for a s10 they wanna swap for a custom ratty it's more like a bunny stopper then ratty very good wood work on the gun Quote Link to post
moxy 617 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Where are you bandog? Quote Link to post
bandog 52 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Near derby mate Quote Link to post
Acuspell 329 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Have a look at the BEST FITTINGS website. Everything you could possibly want for filling a PCP is there, and at the most competitive prices (unless you get given it). S10 is a GREAT rifle. The power curve is a bit more pronounced than on more modern rifles, that is something you will have to find for yourself.NOBODY (other than the previous owner) can tell you. Fill to about 180bar, shoot at a consistent target right through the pressure range down to about 110bar. Notice when thepoint of impact starts to drop off - it will drop more at further range sooner, so if you do this at 40 yards, you will discover the curve more easily. Try and borrow a chrono (get a friend with one) and note the velocity figures. If you fill a bit higher, say 190baror 200bar if the working pressure will allow it - depends what is written/stamped on your cylinder. When you start shooting you will notice that the velocity starts off a little low - lets say it is 749 fps (.177) after about 10 shots the velocity will start to INCREASE. This is due to the pressure on the valve that the hammer has to overcome dropping...velocity will climb a few fps per shot, so say 758, 759, 761, 766, ........through the "sweet spot" of your rifle and the pressure IT WORKS BEST AT....788, 789, 787. 788, 788, 789, 786, 789,788, 788 788.....for about 40 shots, then the velocity will start to drop off again. ALL pcp rifles, unless regulated, go through this same curve of velocity, it is due to the pressure on the back of the valve and the weight of the hammer spring. The rifle needs to have these things "in balance" to work efficiently and it is a clever balancing act by the designers - transfer port size, valve length, spring weight, hammer weight and the pressure of the fill - they all work together to give you the required velocity. The better rifles have consistent velocity over a wider range of pressure - down to efficieny of the valve and hammer system. You need to doa bit of experimentation to find this out - unless the previous owner can give you some short cuts,by way of knowledge from experimentation he did. Quote Link to post
moxy 617 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Bit far. Could have done a trade on a tank. I'm sure someone local will sort you out. Unless your a big fella or a gluten for punishment I would leave the pump idea well alone. Feck that!! And that's exactly what you will be saying every time you dread pumping up your bottle. A pumps not for me I'm a lazy git. The S10 is a handy tool. I have one and its never let me down. Hope yours doesn't either. Quote Link to post
bandog 52 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Cheers mate thanks a lot for that dude I suppose it's a bout getting thought a tin of pellets and getting to know the gun I am going to make a steel target pellet trap type thing at work so ill get use to it I think ill invest in a chrono and do some tests Quote Link to post
Halfinch 51 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Bit far. Could have done a trade on a tank. I'm sure someone local will sort you out. Unless your a big fella or a gluten for punishment I would leave the pump idea well alone. Feck that!! And that's exactly what you will be saying every time you dread pumping up your bottle. A pumps not for me I'm a lazy git The same as that Moxy, I have a spare cylinder for my HW100, I had to fill them both one night with a pump, and guess what? I thought "FECK THAT" and bought a bottle. Hahahahaha 1 Quote Link to post
bandog 52 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Bit far. Could have done a trade on a tank. I'm sure someone local will sort you out. Unless your a big fella or a gluten for punishment I would leave the pump idea well alone. Feck that!! And that's exactly what you will be saying every time you dread pumping up your bottle. A pumps not for me I'm a lazy git. The S10 is a handy tool. I have one and its never let me down. Hope yours doesn't either. Cheers mate what sort of trade you thinking pal i don't mind a drive could always meet up I drove 3hrs yesterday for the s10 up snowy windy roads I was shitting it Is it that bad pumping lol is it worse then foot pumping your car tyre lol Quote Link to post
moxy 617 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Lol. Had a S10 or two acuspell. I wouldn't get two deep into the chrony side of things bandog. Yes keep an eye on your output to stay legal but you will get to know what it's capable of without the maths. All the info you need is on the charge regulator and your ability to count. A day on the targets and you will work it out. Quote Link to post
Halfinch 51 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Bit far. Could have done a trade on a tank. I'm sure someone local will sort you out. Unless your a big fella or a gluten for punishment I would leave the pump idea well alone. Feck that!! And that's exactly what you will be saying every time you dread pumping up your bottle. A pumps not for me I'm a lazy git. The S10 is a handy tool. I have one and its never let me down. Hope yours doesn't either. Cheers mate what sort of trade you thinking pal i don't mind a drive could always meet up I drove 3hrs yesterday for the s10 up snowy windy roads I was shitting it Is it that bad pumping lol is it worse then foot pumping your car tyre lol YES! 1 Quote Link to post
moxy 617 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Bandog. It wouldn't be worth your time or fuel on top of the value for the cylinder. Keep checking about the forums and one will fall in your lap mate. Bide your time and don't rush into anything. Stick up a wanted ad. A pump is not my idea of fun. But I'm sure some hero will be along soon to say otherwise. Quote Link to post
moxy 617 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Lol. Halfinch. You wimp 1 Quote Link to post
bandog 52 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Bit far. Could have done a trade on a tank. I'm sure someone local will sort you out. Unless your a big fella or a gluten for punishment I would leave the pump idea well alone. Feck that!! And that's exactly what you will be saying every time you dread pumping up your bottle. A pumps not for me I'm a lazy git. The S10 is a handy tool. I have one and its never let me down. Hope yours doesn't either. Cheers mate what sort of trade you thinking pal i don't mind a drive could always meet up I drove 3hrs yesterday for the s10 up snowy windy roads I was shitting it Is it that bad pumping lol is it worse then foot pumping your car tyre lol YES! Shit lol Quote Link to post
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