PJWmids 35 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Can you get scope mounts that enable you to use fixed sights and scopes on the same rifle? Quote Link to post
tegater 789 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Depends what rifle and scope. Military/law enforcement often use them, but not necessarily with a TS. Often used with non precision sights such as aim points, non magnifying and cqb sights. The ability to use iron sights as well is often just for last resort. Quote Link to post
PJWmids 35 Posted December 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 it would be for use on my hw99s rifle, so if need be at close ranges I could get a shot off accurately with the fixed sights, when a scope would be inadequate. Quote Link to post
tegater 789 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Not sure if there is anything suitable for that purpose. I am sure one of the air gun specialists will know the answer. Quote Link to post
Tron 173 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Yes Bud, there are specialized High scope mounts that enable you to see open iron sights through the base of the scope mounts. they are available from several makers, the only downside is using such mounts mean the scope has to be mounted higher than usual which obviously creates pellet drop differences compared with normal scope pictures. Quote Link to post
bob.243 9,235 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 I think this is what your looking for. Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,845 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 hi why dont you buy a mildot scope with a low magnification like 2.5 -10 x44 and do a scope calibration from 5yds to 45yds,then just use your aim points for closer ranges! simples 1 Quote Link to post
PJWmids 35 Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Yes Bud, there are specialized High scope mounts that enable you to see open iron sights through the base of the scope mounts. they are available from several makers, the only downside is using such mounts mean the scope has to be mounted higher than usual which obviously creates pellet drop differences compared with normal scope pictures. When you say pellet drop issues, do you mean when using high mounts to medium sized you will just need to re zero? Quote Link to post
PJWmids 35 Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 hi why dont you buy a mildot scope with a low magnification like 2.5 -10 x44 and do a scope calibration from 5yds to 45yds,then just use your aim points for closer ranges! simples I currently use a hawke hd 3-9 x 40 mil dot scope, I ask about using these high mounts as I do some rat vermin control, and occasionally I've come across one within 8-10 ft and its just blurred being to close to use the scope. As my rifle is fitted with fix sights I wondered if there was a way to utilise them in such a situation. But for instance if these sort of mounts mentioned affect accuracy or there are any other issues, then I would just forget the idea. Quote Link to post
AR177 588 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Is it not the parallax that is making the picture blurred? Try shooting a target and finding the aim point for 10ft, will probably a cupple mil dots low - Its very common in HFT to use this method as in competition you are not allowed to change parallax / mag once you have started, and the close up targets are often out of focus. You can still be accurate at close range with the scope buddy and no need to change any of your setup ATB Adam Quote Link to post
PJWmids 35 Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I'll have to try putting up a target at close range then, and figure out which mil dot I need to use, if you folks reckon its not worth changing the mounts. Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 (edited) there are under the scope ones, but your scope has to be hi enough to see under it, or a very small objective lens, or vise versa on top of the scope theyre way to hi and lose theyre advantage of being low on the barrel.(because the climb is very steep on the tragectory). better of mounting a laser at barrel height. Edited December 18, 2012 by ghillies Quote Link to post
Tron 173 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 If you do a lot of rat shooting then you would be better off using a Hawke red dot sight. nice and quick to pick up the target, and at the range their mostly shot at more than up to the job. I use one around farm buildings for squirrel and federal pigeon shooting and I find it good. Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,845 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 (edited) hi why dont you buy a mildot scope with a low magnification like 2.5 -10 x44 and do a scope calibration from 5yds to 45yds,then just use your aim points for closer ranges! simples I currently use a hawke hd 3-9 x 40 mil dot scope, I ask about using these high mounts as I do some rat vermin control, and occasionally I've come across one within 8-10 ft and its just blurred being to close to use the scope. As my rifle is fitted with fix sights I wondered if there was a way to utilise them in such a situation. But for instance if these sort of mounts mentioned affect accuracy or there are any other issues, then I would just forget the idea. hi buddy i also shoot a lot of rats,and have no need for these mounts,if the rats are to close move back! so you can see them clearly in your scope! your scope probaly wont focus at anything closer than 10yds,as this is the spec on most scopes. depending on what your zero is? if you have a 3-9x40 then you will be using hold over at close range if its .177 and in .22 you will probaly need 2.5 mild to 3.25 for close range 8/10ft.? zero @ 15 yds and take em all on the cross hairs more or less! but you really should do a scope calibration for close range,this way you will know your aim points at close range i usually zero at 20yds for ratting in .177 and 15yds for .22 if this is any help Edited December 18, 2012 by davyt63 Quote Link to post
PJWmids 35 Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Thanks for the info davyt63 Quote Link to post
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