123hw80 9 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 hi all got my first gun safe what length n make bolts bolts do i need for my shotgun safe do they need to be any specific make my friend said they have to have a stamp on them to say they are British standers or will b n q own do the job thanks 123hw80 Quote Link to post
mark a l 27 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Hi .. i brought a gun cabinet fixing kit from my local mole vally famers store ... the Kit contains 4 of 10x80mm Sleeve Anchors for fixing into concrete, 2 x Coach Screws 10x40mm for fixing to wood and 6 x M10 washers. http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/mvf/store/products/fixing-kit-for-gun-cabinet?add=1731491&quantity=1 Quote Link to post
PlasticJock 539 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 In my first house the FEO didn't even check - it was just screwed in at 6 points. When I moved the new FEO said it had to be coach bolted into the floor/wall. You don't need bolts with a standard on them, that's just for the safe itself Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,929 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Any old rawl bolts yeh like,, The cabinet does not need to be BS never mind the bolts,, Actually I`ll say that again The cabinet DOES NOT need to be BS Quote Link to post
vitalspark 4 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Hi 123 Home Office advice states: Any security device should be securely fixed to the fabric of the building.; For preference it should be in a room or area that does not have direct access to the outside of a building.; It should not be in a garage, shed or other outside building, except in certain circumstances.; When considering large or heavy gun cabinets,you should consider the load bearing strength of your floors.; Wherever possible, it should be fixed to a wall that is built from bricks or concrete blocks or to the floor. My only additional advice, assuming you are drilling into an inner leaf of blockwork, is to leave a third of the block thickness intact i.e. for a 100mm block 70/75mm rawl bolt should suffice (and don't overtighten it). Hope this helps Quote Link to post
PLEDGEY 493 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 As long as it's fixed to the wall and the FAO can't move the thing it should be OK. I went a bit overkill when i fixed mine. I drilled extra holes in the back of the cabinet, making 10, and fixed them to the wall with sleeve anchors. The bottom was fixed to the floor with 4 bolts which were fixed with chemical resin. If you use sleeve anchors, drill right through to the cavity. Then if you ever got to move house you can just push the anchors into the cavity and fill the hole with polyfilla, job done!. If you don't you have to cut the bolts off with a mini grinder and this will make a mess of the wall. Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,929 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 My first shotgun was chained to a water pipe in the loft !! And the FLO was well happy with it Quote Link to post
PlasticJock 539 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 My first shotgun was chained to a water pipe in the loft !! And the FLO was well happy with it My wife's chained to a water pipe in the loft... The FLO was well happy with that as well Quote Link to post
JonathanKent 16 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 I wouldn't chain your wife up in the loft, you could get in all sorts of trouble!! ATB Jonno Quote Link to post
PlasticJock 539 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 I wouldn't chain your wife up in the loft, you could get in all sorts of trouble!! ATB Jonno The FEO said as long as she wasn't near the guns it's nothing to do with him 1 Quote Link to post
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