runsatnite 7 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Terriers dont need heating of any sort mate .Not saying this to appear hard or big up my dogs but they just dont need it honestly .What they do need is dry draught proof kennels with plenty of bedding whether alone or doubled up .Put heating in and you upset the dogs natural ability to keep warm .The only time a dog does need warmth is after a severe beating or a very hard dig where the cold has set in but thats another story all together.In very cold weather the entrance to the kennel can be covered with hessian ,drawing pinned to the top, and the dog will learn to push it aside .The dogs water should be changed daily in cold weather if only to tap out the ice .Dogs still need water even in freezing conditions .Please take this advice as you WILL benefit in the long run . cheers FD they dont need it as said above !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post
buster gonads 862 Posted December 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 After all thats been said both for and against i went to get the dog out this morning and his water was frozen, dog seem,d warm enough though, iam going to fit a heater today and place it in his kennel but on the side near his water bowl, kill 2 birds with 1 stone, still going to fit a frost stat though, only want it on when its freezing. Quote Link to post
buster gonads 862 Posted December 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Finnished fitting the heater and it works a treat, if anyone is going down the same road as me i found the best frost stat for the job is the Corgi frost stat from Toolstation, just over £10, its the only one i could find that went from +10 down to -5 ,most only go as low +5, no good for the job IMO, i,v set mine at -2 before it comes on and i,ll adjust to suit, should stop the dog and water freezing, ATB. Quote Link to post
johnharris 177 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 infra red lamp is the best Ive found but tube heaters are much cheaper to run Quote Link to post
wippydoo 12 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 short haired dogs with no undercoat do need heating in extremes of weather imho otherwise all the money you spend on good food is burned up by the poor bugger trying to keep warm then they cant put any fat down to keep them warm so get colder etc so as far as im concerned its a sensible investment,a dog thats working keeps itself warm burning calories up moving about but if its lying in its bed and cant get warm its going to be tired and more prone to illness etc.if its a thick coated breed with plenty of undercoat then its another matter Quote Link to post
swagboy 9 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 just pout moor bedding in and if you think the dog need's it pout it in the box and use it's you're dog it's up to you Quote Link to post
buster gonads 862 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 short haired dogs with no undercoat do need heating in extremes of weather imho otherwise all the money you spend on good food is burned up by the poor bugger trying to keep warm then they cant put any fat down to keep them warm so get colder etc so as far as im concerned its a sensible investment,a dog thats working keeps itself warm burning calories up moving about but if its lying in its bed and cant get warm its going to be tired and more prone to illness etc.if its a thick coated breed with plenty of undercoat then its another matter You explaned that better than i could, thanks. The pups a Plummer, not the thick,st coats in the dog world, and as he,s on his own i thought a heater for extreamly cold weather would,nt go amiss, i,ve always had 2 dogs kennel,d together previously and didnt see the need for any heat in the kennel, i do now, cheers. Quote Link to post
Forager 14 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 water freezes at 0c so setting at -2 is not a lot of good if you dont want his drinking water to turn to ice you need to set it above freezing Quote Link to post
buster gonads 862 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 water freezes at 0c so setting at -2 is not a lot of good if you dont want his drinking water to turn to ice you need to set it above freezing The puddles froze last night, the water in the dogs bowl didnt as its under cover, i think the outside temp would have to drop below -5 to freez the water in the kennel but i,ll moniter it to see, iam going to buy a min-max temp gauge to see what temp the heater comes on, the numbers on the frost stat are a guide only. Quote Link to post
Forager 14 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 where have you put the frost stat if its in the kennel thats the temp it will read and the water will freeze but if its out side thats ok dont think the kennel temp would get below freezing if there good kennels Quote Link to post
clachan 72 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Terriers dont need heating of any sort mate .Not saying this to appear hard or big up my dogs but they just dont need it honestly .What they do need is dry draught proof kennels with plenty of bedding whether alone or doubled up .Put heating in and you upset the dogs natural ability to keep warm .The only time a dog does need warmth is after a severe beating or a very hard dig where the cold has set in but thats another story all together.In very cold weather the entrance to the kennel can be covered with hessian ,drawing pinned to the top, and the dog will learn to push it aside .The dogs water should be changed daily in cold weather if only to tap out the ice .Dogs still need water even in freezing conditions .Please take this advice as you WILL benefit in the long run . cheers FD Totally agree FD.Keep a heat lamp handy,for those sore times.But other wise warm,dry bedding will do.clachan Quote Link to post
THE DEALER! 77 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 After all thats been said both for and against i went to get the dog out this morning and his water was frozen, dog seem,d warm enough though, iam going to fit a heater today and place it in his kennel but on the side near his water bowl, kill 2 birds with 1 stone, still going to fit a frost stat though, only want it on when its freezing. good to see lads doing there best for there dogs in this cold weather, good man" buster gonads", but i would have to agree with foxdroppers post, heating is for pups at birth, and when dogs are banged up. 1 Quote Link to post
buster gonads 862 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 After all thats been said both for and against i went to get the dog out this morning and his water was frozen, dog seem,d warm enough though, iam going to fit a heater today and place it in his kennel but on the side near his water bowl, kill 2 birds with 1 stone, still going to fit a frost stat though, only want it on when its freezing. good to see lads doing there best for there dogs in this cold weather, good man" buster gonads", but i would have to agree with foxdroppers post, heating is for pups at birth, and when dogs are banged up. Just doing what i think is right for my dog, every body to there own though. Quote Link to post
buster gonads 862 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) where have you put the frost stat if its in the kennel thats the temp it will read and the water will freeze but if its out side thats ok dont think the kennel temp would get below freezing if there good kennels The frost stat is in the big kennel but not inside the kennel box with the pup, were it,ll be a few degrees warmer, wish i was bright enough to post pics but iam not, nowt truer than- A picture paints a thousend words, anyway, its in, its working and i,ll moniter it to see it stops the water and dog freezing . PS, ive been a heating engineer for the last 20 years, he should have central heating and a power shower . Edited December 14, 2011 by buster gonads Quote Link to post
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