undisputed 1,664 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Ok reading the culling post this came up in the debate. Being a good stockman....what exactly does that mean to you? How do you care for your bitch before and after she whelps. What role do you play in ensuring the bitch and her pups stay in fine fettle. Any litter I've bred over the years begins life indoors in the warmth away from draughts for the first two weeks before transferring them to the pen under a heat lamp. The bitch is fed twice a day with good quality food, often a mix of dry food and a whole cooked chicken. The pups are wormed at two weeks old and again at six weeks. They are introduced to liquidised food at 3weeks and this is increased over the following couple of weeks till they're on solids. I also spend a lot of time with the litter socialising them and getting them used to being handled, stroked etc. I separate them from the bitch at six weeks although they still get a feed from her at night they are in a separate kennel when they bed down. They also have the run of the back garden during the day. That's some of the things I try to do.....I'm not claiming it's the best and I'm sure others will have a different view so let's hear them. 3 Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 If ye think good stockmanship is simply rearing a litter of pups ye have got alot to learn 2 Quote Link to post
toby1066 413 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 worming should be done at 4 weeks as well cos pups that age grow fast and need everything they can get out there food Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 If ye think good stockmanship is simply rearing a litter of pups ye have got alot to learn This was in relation to the caring for a litter, if you want to expand on the care of your working dog be my guest Quote Link to post
boyo 1,398 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 in my eyes good stockmanship is someone who no matter what he is looking after they always look in top nick and fine fettle and a good stockman will always get anything to look its best .they are one of the few who can make a silk purse out of a pigs ear and tbh a real top stockman is quite rare these days as most people havnt got the time to take what it needs to be one , Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 If ye think good stockmanship is simply rearing a litter of pups ye have got alot to learn This was in relation to the caring for a litter, if you want to expand on the care of your working dog be my guest And again ye look like ye have alot to learn its more than just about caring for an animal why dont ye google it before posting something or better still give an opinion from past experiance 1 Quote Link to post
boyo 1,398 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 when i breed a litter it starts before they are born always worm the bitch out and make sure she is clean inside and out i also always put in a new bed in the kennel and cleanse kennel right through. when the pups are born there is always a heat lamp for them and the bitch.the pups are dewclawed at 2 to 3 days and wormed at 2 and 4 weeks and every 3 weeks untill they are ready to go.the bitch is fed 3 times a day on best meal and meat with milk and cereal every morning along vith vit c .plus multi vit in the evening meal . from 2 weeks old the pups are held and fed milky slops by finger rubbing their mouths with the sloppy food after a few days they get the idea and start lapping and are then fed 3 to 4 times a day on the best mince and puppy food and as they get a bit older chicken and other bits from 2 to 3 weeks the pups get bomemeal in every meal.all my pups are born and raised in my back yard so are on hand any time of night or day if i can get it i rear the pups on goats milk it is very time consuming and expensive to rear them lile this but if i couldnt give the time and expense then i would not consider rearing a litter . 1 Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 boyo i wouldnt even grace what you do as most dont listen and why educate people you dont evn no well mate you no good stockman with dogs that they have and breed , look at nicki savva ger mckenna etc top dog men , and afew i no with spaneils etc top kennels dogs etc 1 Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 when i breed a litter it starts before they are born always worm the bitch out and make sure she is clean inside and out i also always put in a new bed in the kennel and cleanse kennel right through. when the pups are born there is always a heat lamp for them and the bitch.the pups are dewclawed at 2 to 3 days and wormed at 2 and 4 weeks and every 3 weeks untill they are ready to go.the bitch is fed 3 times a day on best meal and meat with milk and cereal every morning along vith vit c .plus multi vit in the evening meal . from 2 weeks old the pups are held and fed milky slops by finger rubbing their mouths with the sloppy food after a few days they get the idea and start lapping and are then fed 3 to 4 times a day on the best mince and puppy food and as they get a bit older chicken and other bits from 2 to 3 weeks the pups get bomemeal in every meal.all my pups are born and raised in my back yard so are on hand any time of night or day if i can get it i rear the pups on goats milk it is very time consuming and expensive to rear them lile this but if i couldnt give the time and expense then i would not consider rearing a litter . The thread was about good stockmanship pal not about the best way to rear a litter the problem lay in the fella that posted the thread doesnt exactly know what good stockmanship entails he may come back later after he has read up about it on the internet i think Quote Link to post
boyo 1,398 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 If ye think good stockmanship is simply rearing a litter of pups ye have got alot to learn This was in relation to the caring for a litter, if you want to expand on the care of your working dog be my guest hedz i was replying to above post. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 good stockmanship is sound if youve got large packs of dogs/hounds, flocks of sheep, herds of cows but fot the lads with the odd lurcher or 2 then good common sense will surfice. 1 Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 The thread was about good stockmanship pal not about the best way to rear a litter the problem lay in the fella that posted the thread doesnt exactly know what good stockmanship entails he may come back later after he has read up about it on the internet i think No the thread was about opinions on what stockman ship meant to others....I have no intention of looking on google or anywhere else....your the one being all cryptic.....what are you a farmer ? Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 The thread was about good stockmanship pal not about the best way to rear a litter the problem lay in the fella that posted the thread doesnt exactly know what good stockmanship entails he may come back later after he has read up about it on the internet i think No the thread was about opinions on what stockman ship meant to others....I have no intention of looking on google or anywhere else....your the one being all cryptic.....what are you a farmer ? No mate i am not a farmer i think farm stock and working dogs or hounds there is slight differences in stockmanship,also in say raceing greyhounds and raceing pigeons there is slight differences but similar principles Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 No mate i am not a farmer i think farm stock and working dogs or hounds there is slight differences in stockmanship,also in say raceing greyhounds and raceing pigeons there is slight differences but similar principles A right I get it now.....you have to be in the know to know.....thanks for sharing! Quote Link to post
3 Turns 326 Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 If ye think good stockmanship is simply rearing a litter of pups ye have got alot to learn This was in relation to the caring for a litter, if you want to expand on the care of your working dog be my guest CALM DOWN MATE LOL. REAL STOCKMANSHIP IS FOR STRAIGHT X,S. LURCHER,S CAN BE A HIT/N/A M ISS SOMETIMES. BEEN THERE GREAT INTENTION,S PICK A DUFFER . THE REAL DEAL PUP END,S UP IN FOSTER CARE.LOL LURCHER,S Quote Link to post
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