B.P.R 2,798 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Just watched a program about foxes in Siberia being bred for pets. Heres what it said. 2nd generation; aggressiveness to humans starts to disappear. 4th generation; some pups wag tails and approach humans. Also whimper and allow themselves to be carried. 6th; show affection to humans, lick face and are excited to be let out of it's cage. Goes on to say that by the 12th generation the pups ears are floppy until around 3 month whereas a fox cub has erect ears straight away. Don't know how true this is but ffs. People will be using foxes for rabbits soon haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxing machine 144 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 lol i wouldent be having one licking my face. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 leave wild anmals in the wild.humans are far to good at messing in stuff they have no business in.f*****g idiots. remeber that american woman with the chimp,she slept with it and took it everywhere.it was a bit down one day,so she gave it anti depressents,which resulted in the chimp mauling the face and fingers of her friend.i felt more sorry for the f*****g chimp. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scent 509 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at7-gXRjTI0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 bet that old irish lads takes hours to go to the shop.he must get stopped on a reg basis scent lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scent 509 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 bet that old irish lads takes hours to go to the shop.he must get stopped on a reg basis scent lol rumour has it he uses the fox for digging ,how funny would that be ,a bell an and flint collar on the fox lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Wild things should only live wild.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chimp 299 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 leave wild anmals in the wild.humans are far to good at messing in stuff they have no business in.f*****g idiots. remeber that american woman with the chimp,she slept with it and took it everywhere.it was a bit down one day,so she gave it anti depressents,which resulted in the chimp mauling the face and fingers of her friend.i felt more sorry for the f*****g chimp. i remember it well , god damn bitch wouldnt get off me so i had to teach her a lesson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 all domestic animals where wild once upon a time. i wonder why the ears changed as pups/cubs? where they selectively breeding the friendliest ones? if not it goes to show how much influence the parents behavior has on their young. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 all domestic animals where wild once upon a time. i wonder why the ears changed as pups/cubs? where they selectively breeding the friendliest ones? if not it goes to show how much influence the parents behavior has on their young. very true blan,however there some that should never even be considered for domestication.i mean how long did it take to doesticate the dog?not having a go.i genuinely dont know the answer,something ive never really looked into.i would imagine centuries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 leave wild anmals in the wild.humans are far to good at messing in stuff they have no business in.f*****g idiots. remeber that american woman with the chimp,she slept with it and took it everywhere.it was a bit down one day,so she gave it anti depressents,which resulted in the chimp mauling the face and fingers of her friend.i felt more sorry for the f*****g chimp. i remember it well , god damn bitch wouldnt get off me so i had to teach her a lesson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unlacedgecko 1,467 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) The foxes aren't being bred to be pets. It is part of quite a well known Russian experiment into the domestication of wild canids. The friendliest of each litter was selected for breeding. More information is available here from this National Geographic article; http://ngm.nationalg...ls/ratliff-text Edited August 23, 2011 by unlacedgecko Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Floppy ears are part of a pup's development: all pricked eared canine species have flopped ears at birth. Retaining flopped ears into adult hood was apparently part of the domestication process where canines with more puppy like characteristics in temperament were the ones which were kept and bred from. Pricked ears in domestic breeds have to be selectively bred for: GSD, Spitz breeds etc. People used to think that GSDs were closer to wolves than other dogs because of their physical appearance: not so. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Floppy ears are part of a pup's development: all pricked eared canine species have flopped ears at birth. Retaining flopped ears into adult hood was apparently part of the domestication process where canines with more puppy like characteristics in temperament were the ones which were kept and bred from. Pricked ears in domestic breeds have to be selectively bred for: GSD, Spitz breeds etc. People used to think that GSDs were closer to wolves than other dogs because of their physical appearance: not so. i heard somewhere,dont know how much validity it holds,but they say,they can trace back to the very wolf where the first domesticated dog originated from.if thats true,thats bloody amazing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 all domestic animals where wild once upon a time. i wonder why the ears changed as pups/cubs? where they selectively breeding the friendliest ones? if not it goes to show how much influence the parents behavior has on their young. very true blan,however there some that should never even be considered for domestication.i mean how long did it take to doesticate the dog?not having a go.i genuinely dont know the answer,something ive never really looked into.i would imagine centuries. im not sure either,though I've heard wolf and jackal hybrids are at least manageable if the owners clued up. I think it was jackal hybrids i read about that where being used as sniffer dogs in some countries with a lot of success. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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