young terriers

[stop.end 4,082]

Good thread scent,pity there's always someone to spoil it.We were out today and had 2 young dogs and 1 4th season dog for back up.I went to an earth that can be real easy or very awkward.The 1st young bitch,a patterdale was collered up and entered but she showed a few times so we lifted her and tried the 2nd young bitch which is sealyhamxrussellxlakey.She entered and after about 15min we located her at around 7ft,not what we expected,we left her at it for a few more minutes and then started to dig,within 5min of diging she was out and she had been with it as she had some marks on her.We tied her up and let the experienced dog go and 3hour later we opened to hom with 4 in a pocket at a dept of 8ft.The pups did well i thought as that was the 1st earth they ever seen and they both traveled.1 is 17months and the white bitch is 15months,they will both get from now untill xmass to prove there worth.

 

any pics mate

Sorry no pics,we were f*****g soaked to the bone,the rain never let up.

Mind the wettings Donie ye boys are getting a bit old for them.

We wont melt liam,drop of rain never killed anyone,and the young dogs have to get a look before we kick off seriously.How is the bitch,wont be long now.

 

WHAT DO YOU MEAN WAS EITHER EASY OR AWKWARD???? AND TAKING PUPS TO A HOME THAT CAN RUN 7 TO 8 FT....... THATS SOME JUDGEMENT FOR A TERRIERMAN FOR PUPS ON THERE FIRST EVER ..... WOULD YOU NOT WANA TAKE THEM TO SOMETHING HANDY FOR THERE FIRST LOOK SEE..... SOMETHING LIKE A FOOT OR 2 THATS NOT RANGEY....... NOT 8FT DEEP WAY 4 IN THE POT LMAO........ LOVE 2 SEE A WEE PIC OF THE BOY THAT DUG IT FATMAN

[THE DEALER! 77]

Good thread scent,pity there's always someone to spoil it.We were out today and had 2 young dogs and 1 4th season dog for back up.I went to an earth that can be real easy or very awkward.The 1st young bitch,a patterdale was collered up and entered but she showed a few times so we lifted her and tried the 2nd young bitch which is sealyhamxrussellxlakey.She entered and after about 15min we located her at around 7ft,not what we expected,we left her at it for a few more minutes and then started to dig,within 5min of diging she was out and she had been with it as she had some marks on her.We tied her up and let the experienced dog go and 3hour later we opened to hom with 4 in a pocket at a dept of 8ft.The pups did well i thought as that was the 1st earth they ever seen and they both traveled.1 is 17months and the white bitch is 15months,they will both get from now untill xmass to prove there worth.

 

any pics mate

Sorry no pics,we were f*****g soaked to the bone,the rain never let up.

Mind the wettings Donie ye boys are getting a bit old for them.

We wont melt liam,drop of rain never killed anyone,and the young dogs have to get a look before we kick off seriously.How is the bitch,wont be long now.

 

WHAT DO YOU MEAN WAS EITHER EASY OR AWKWARD???? AND TAKING PUPS TO A HOME THAT CAN RUN 7 TO 8 FT....... THATS SOME JUDGEMENT FOR A TERRIERMAN FOR PUPS ON THERE FIRST EVER ..... WOULD YOU NOT WANA TAKE THEM TO SOMETHING HANDY FOR THERE FIRST LOOK SEE..... SOMETHING LIKE A FOOT OR 2 THATS NOT RANGEY....... NOT 8FT DEEP WAY 4 IN THE POT LMAO........ LOVE 2 SEE A WEE PIC OF THE BOY THAT DUG IT FATMAN

 

to be honest stop.end i let this post run to see would any one say any thing, and fair play you did, you can tell the type of guy he is if hes digging the first week in august ! scent can i ask how many dogs do you or your mates have that have been dug a few times and are the same age as your dog ?

[fat man 4,741]

Stop end,the earth we done can be a piece of piss,2thirds of it would be less than 2ft,its the other bit thats the killer and its the 1st time in awhile weve had to dig it on that side.As for the dog we dug with,well we had full confidence in the dog as he is well experienced,hard to a point but not reckless.Some on here know the dog and know what he is capable of,and sorry i dont do pics,either on phone or with camera,as i have said on here before,i have no pics of any of my dogs past or present......Dealer whats your problem,we are just trying to get a few pups travelling ,weve had 2 digs over 2 weeks,where's the harm in it,i doubt we are the only ones out with pups,and even if we are what the f**k,its our buisness no one else's,if you dont like it well tough,i know lads around my way that dont stop at all,but who am i to tell them what to do,at least we finish the middle of feb.

[drifter 1 50]

No 2 dogs are the same folks and they all need handling in different ways Iv had a young dog before that started at 12 months of age and had accounted for over 100 by the end of his first season this is not somthing that I am proud of or bragging about nor would I do it again but that dog made everything look easy from the off and never once looked back he did not know what giving up was and he paid the ultimate price for his courage at three yars old when he was dug dead at 3 yrs old but that is another story, I have a young dog off this dogs litter sister here now and he is over 2 years of age and hasnt seen or done a tenth of what his uncle did he has been very slow coming on but he has kept coming forward all the time and I dont mind that at all the dog is not a coward and is allways buzzing when on the bank and he is a pleasure to have out with you, He hasnt done aswell as I would have hoped early on but he also hasnt given me too much to be concerned about He was entered at the same time as a bitch who made him look an idiot at first she found with ease and stayed for a few short digs in earths where this dog would not enter but then completely showed her true colours and did not want anything more and we parted company, He is at the age now where i am wanting to see a vast improvement this coming season but it helps that I have a great faith in the line of dogs he is off and I really hope he makes the finished article, so this shows there are no hard and fast rules you have to stick to with youngsters and allways make your decisions on them YOURSELF I have seen far too many young dogs written off in acts of bravardo by people trying to save face, I am not saying tolerate out and out wankers and Im not saying they all make it but just try and keep dogs that you have faith in and give them the best oppitunitys you can and as they say the rest is in the hands of them and god.

 

Atb Drifter

[THE DEALER! 77]

Stop end,the earth we done can be a piece of piss,2thirds of it would be less than 2ft,its the other bit thats the killer and its the 1st time in awhile weve had to dig it on that side.As for the dog we dug with,well we had full confidence in the dog as he is well experienced,hard to a point but not reckless.Some on here know the dog and know what he is capable of,and sorry i dont do pics,either on phone or with camera,as i have said on here before,i have no pics of any of my dogs past or present......Dealer whats your problem,we are just trying to get a few pups travelling ,weve had 2 digs over 2 weeks,where's the harm in it,i doubt we are the only ones out with pups,and even if we are what the f**k,its our buisness no one else's,if you dont like it well tough,i know lads around my way that dont stop at all,but who am i to tell them what to do,at least we finish the middle of feb.

 

fatman your right its no one elses business, to be honest you remind me of a bricklayer i know years in the business and has not learned to lay a brick correctly , you talk here about the length of time your at the digging and you come on here letting young lads believe its ok to be digging in warm days summer months, distubing earths/ sets that rearing a family. i tell you this time of year its no wonder your not digging your young dogs, but your to blind to see why !

[THE DEALER! 77]

No 2 dogs are the same folks and they all need handling in different ways Iv had a young dog before that started at 12 months of age and had accounted for over 100 by the end of his first season this is not somthing that I am proud of or bragging about nor would I do it again but that dog made everything look easy from the off and never once looked back he did not know what giving up was and he paid the ultimate price for his courage at three yars old when he was dug dead at 3 yrs old but that is another story, I have a young dog off this dogs litter sister here now and he is over 2 years of age and hasnt seen or done a tenth of what his uncle did he has been very slow coming on but he has kept coming forward all the time and I dont mind that at all the dog is not a coward and is allways buzzing when on the bank and he is a pleasure to have out with you, He hasnt done aswell as I would have hoped early on but he also hasnt given me too much to be concerned about He was entered at the same time as a bitch who made him look an idiot at first she found with ease and stayed for a few short digs in earths where this dog would not enter but then completely showed her true colours and did not want anything more and we parted company, He is at the age now where i am wanting to see a vast improvement this coming season but it helps that I have a great faith in the line of dogs he is off and I really hope he makes the finished article, so this shows there are no hard and fast rules you have to stick to with youngsters and allways make your decisions on them YOURSELF I have seen far too many young dogs written off in acts of bravardo by people trying to save face, I am not saying tolerate out and out wankers and Im not saying they all make it but just try and keep dogs that you have faith in and give them the best oppitunitys you can and as they say the rest is in the hands of them and god.

 

Atb Drifter

 

drifter, can i ask you a truthful question, if i was to turn the clock back on the bitch you are speaking about, would you do the same thing with her, our would you hold on to her to mature for another season after her first few digs.

[drifter 1 50]

No 2 dogs are the same folks and they all need handling in different ways Iv had a young dog before that started at 12 months of age and had accounted for over 100 by the end of his first season this is not somthing that I am proud of or bragging about nor would I do it again but that dog made everything look easy from the off and never once looked back he did not know what giving up was and he paid the ultimate price for his courage at three yars old when he was dug dead at 3 yrs old but that is another story, I have a young dog off this dogs litter sister here now and he is over 2 years of age and hasnt seen or done a tenth of what his uncle did he has been very slow coming on but he has kept coming forward all the time and I dont mind that at all the dog is not a coward and is allways buzzing when on the bank and he is a pleasure to have out with you, He hasnt done aswell as I would have hoped early on but he also hasnt given me too much to be concerned about He was entered at the same time as a bitch who made him look an idiot at first she found with ease and stayed for a few short digs in earths where this dog would not enter but then completely showed her true colours and did not want anything more and we parted company, He is at the age now where i am wanting to see a vast improvement this coming season but it helps that I have a great faith in the line of dogs he is off and I really hope he makes the finished article, so this shows there are no hard and fast rules you have to stick to with youngsters and allways make your decisions on them YOURSELF I have seen far too many young dogs written off in acts of bravardo by people trying to save face, I am not saying tolerate out and out wankers and Im not saying they all make it but just try and keep dogs that you have faith in and give them the best oppitunitys you can and as they say the rest is in the hands of them and god.

 

Atb Drifter

 

drifter, can i ask you a truthful question, if i was to turn the clock back on the bitch you are speaking about, would you do the same thing with her, our would you hold on to her to mature for another season after her first few digs.

Yes no problem mate No I would not want her back she was an out and out coward but would fight other dogs for fun and the last earth she walked out from was 0.4 I kicked the ground through and there was the quarry she had completely quit but then when tied up fired into another dog. There are a coulpe that I would like to give another chance but this bitch is not one of them.

 

Atb Drifter

[THE DEALER! 77]

thanks for the reply drifter1, had a few dogs like that myself i have to admit, make your blood boil !

["Earth!" 503]

Stop end,the earth we done can be a piece of piss,2thirds of it would be less than 2ft,its the other bit thats the killer and its the 1st time in awhile weve had to dig it on that side.As for the dog we dug with,well we had full confidence in the dog as he is well experienced,hard to a point but not reckless.Some on here know the dog and know what he is capable of,and sorry i dont do pics,either on phone or with camera,as i have said on here before,i have no pics of any of my dogs past or present......Dealer whats your problem,we are just trying to get a few pups travelling ,weve had 2 digs over 2 weeks,where's the harm in it,i doubt we are the only ones out with pups,and even if we are what the f**k,its our buisness no one else's,if you dont like it well tough,i know lads around my way that dont stop at all,but who am i to tell them what to do,at least we finish the middle of feb.

 

fatman your right its no one elses business, to be honest you remind me of a bricklayer i know years in the business and has not learned to lay a brick correctly , you talk here about the length of time your at the digging and you come on here letting young lads believe its ok to be digging in warm days summer months, distubing earths/ sets that rearing a family. i tell you this time of year its no wonder your not digging your young dogs, but your to blind to see why !

does vermin control not come into this? i cover alot of ground and am also a keeper.IF i didnt, other means would..

[fat man 4,741]

When do you start back then dealer,have you young stock to get goin,and as for young lads i dont ask anything of anyone,if someone wants to dig all year round thats up to them.Why wait till a few weeks time when everyone else is at it,then you risk puting a young dog in on something that has been dug already.

[fat man 4,741]

Stop end,the earth we done can be a piece of piss,2thirds of it would be less than 2ft,its the other bit thats the killer and its the 1st time in awhile weve had to dig it on that side.As for the dog we dug with,well we had full confidence in the dog as he is well experienced,hard to a point but not reckless.Some on here know the dog and know what he is capable of,and sorry i dont do pics,either on phone or with camera,as i have said on here before,i have no pics of any of my dogs past or present......Dealer whats your problem,we are just trying to get a few pups travelling ,weve had 2 digs over 2 weeks,where's the harm in it,i doubt we are the only ones out with pups,and even if we are what the f**k,its our buisness no one else's,if you dont like it well tough,i know lads around my way that dont stop at all,but who am i to tell them what to do,at least we finish the middle of feb.

 

fatman your right its no one elses business, to be honest you remind me of a bricklayer i know years in the business and has not learned to lay a brick correctly , you talk here about the length of time your at the digging and you come on here letting young lads believe its ok to be digging in warm days summer months, distubing earths/ sets that rearing a family. i tell you this time of year its no wonder your not digging your young dogs, but your to blind to see why !

does vermin control not come into this? i cover alot of ground and am also a keeper.IF i didnt, other means would..

Almost everything we dig is released,unless the farmer requests otherwise,so not vermin control,but if we dont dig them 1st someone will get there before us.

["Earth!" 503]

Stop end,the earth we done can be a piece of piss,2thirds of it would be less than 2ft,its the other bit thats the killer and its the 1st time in awhile weve had to dig it on that side.As for the dog we dug with,well we had full confidence in the dog as he is well experienced,hard to a point but not reckless.Some on here know the dog and know what he is capable of,and sorry i dont do pics,either on phone or with camera,as i have said on here before,i have no pics of any of my dogs past or present......Dealer whats your problem,we are just trying to get a few pups travelling ,weve had 2 digs over 2 weeks,where's the harm in it,i doubt we are the only ones out with pups,and even if we are what the f**k,its our buisness no one else's,if you dont like it well tough,i know lads around my way that dont stop at all,but who am i to tell them what to do,at least we finish the middle of feb.

 

fatman your right its no one elses business, to be honest you remind me of a bricklayer i know years in the business and has not learned to lay a brick correctly , you talk here about the length of time your at the digging and you come on here letting young lads believe its ok to be digging in warm days summer months, distubing earths/ sets that rearing a family. i tell you this time of year its no wonder your not digging your young dogs, but your to blind to see why !

does vermin control not come into this? i cover alot of ground and am also a keeper.IF i didnt, other means would..

Almost everything we dig is released,unless the farmer requests otherwise,so not vermin control,but if we dont dig them 1st someone will get there before us.

totally agree.. i let alot run until i found a load of poults dead in one of my woods this morning

[scent 509]

Good thread scent,pity there's always someone to spoil it.We were out today and had 2 young dogs and 1 4th season dog for back up.I went to an earth that can be real easy or very awkward.The 1st young bitch,a patterdale was collered up and entered but she showed a few times so we lifted her and tried the 2nd young bitch which is sealyhamxrussellxlakey.She entered and after about 15min we located her at around 7ft,not what we expected,we left her at it for a few more minutes and then started to dig,within 5min of diging she was out and she had been with it as she had some marks on her.We tied her up and let the experienced dog go and 3hour later we opened to hom with 4 in a pocket at a dept of 8ft.The pups did well i thought as that was the 1st earth they ever seen and they both traveled.1 is 17months and the white bitch is 15months,they will both get from now untill xmass to prove there worth.

 

any pics mate

Sorry no pics,we were f*****g soaked to the bone,the rain never let up.

Mind the wettings Donie ye boys are getting a bit old for them.

We wont melt liam,drop of rain never killed anyone,and the young dogs have to get a look before we kick off seriously.How is the bitch,wont be long now.

 

WHAT DO YOU MEAN WAS EITHER EASY OR AWKWARD???? AND TAKING PUPS TO A HOME THAT CAN RUN 7 TO 8 FT....... THATS SOME JUDGEMENT FOR A TERRIERMAN FOR PUPS ON THERE FIRST EVER ..... WOULD YOU NOT WANA TAKE THEM TO SOMETHING HANDY FOR THERE FIRST LOOK SEE..... SOMETHING LIKE A FOOT OR 2 THATS NOT RANGEY....... NOT 8FT DEEP WAY 4 IN THE POT LMAO........ LOVE 2 SEE A WEE PIC OF THE BOY THAT DUG IT FATMAN

 

to be honest stop.end i let this post run to see would any one say any thing, and fair play you did, you can tell the type of guy he is if hes digging the first week in august ! scent can i ask how many dogs do you or your mates have that have been dug a few times and are the same age as your dog ?

dealer im not talkin about any of my dogs im talking about terriers in general.Between me and my diggin partner we have 7 terriers some are pups ready to start this season and some have a few good seasons under their belts

Edited August 11, 2011 by scent

[sounder 9]

it going abit off topic lads,

to try and answer your question which only you can know , i am to be honest hard on dogs there doing it or there not but when starting out it all takes time some fly some takes longer, as said already you see the signs, you know if it needs more time to build up confidents and that to settle down to a working life from the start of the first season you should know what you have or do it need the second season to settle down, slow starters are in every litter, just read the sign of the dog and make the best choice you can for the dog and you, atb with you dog and hope it works out for you

atb sounder

 

edited to say

from you last post be it yours or your digging mate read what the dog doing the good points and bad ,

[THE DEALER! 77]

When do you start back then dealer,have you young stock to get goin,and as for young lads i dont ask anything of anyone,if someone wants to dig all year round thats up to them.Why wait till a few weeks time when everyone else is at it,then you risk puting a young dog in on something that has been dug already.

yes fatman i have two 22 month old bitches that have seen a bit of game last season but were never dug, at present i have 386 earths on my satnav as i do a little survey work for the department, i will start back terrier work in sept. regardless of all others digging i will still get digs each day i go out. i still cant stop laughing at the last sentence in your post .