hunt 30 Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Gun poor shooting equals injured animal fact even the best shots miss dog either kills or misses there is no in-between the reason numbers of stuff reduced was due to every man shooting and snaring as much as possible badger digging will never return sadly lads another fact Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 You have to be dumb to think that. Shooting them will always be the most efficient and most 'sanitized' method. Cant agree with that mate, no matter what calibre or who's aiming the gun, a badger is not an animal that lends itself to clean shooting. Personaly i dont think this cull will ever get off the ground, theres no one with the balls to make it happen. jmo. I was referring to the earlier comment about an explosion of hares, fox and deer (which ain't gonna happen) and if that happened, would they bring back hunting with dogs? Dog vs gun on the same land - gun always wins. Oh, ok pal misunderstood you there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moonfall 0 Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 I might be misinformed, their has been a lot of varying reports about the proposed badger cull, but I was under the impression it had been passed.It might not be true. But assuming it was, the following points are what the cull will be made up of in these early trials. The two pilot areas for the cull, are probably the two most heavily populated ones, Devon and Gloucester. The farmer would be given the legal right to shoot the badgers in the proposal. Though if the act has been passed, I can envisage 'authorised persons' being designated to do it. A good point to raise Dances. But as to an overall repeal of the hunting with dogs act following this cull, no way. Just my thoughts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theferreter 311 Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 its only illegal if you get caught Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moonfall 0 Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 its only illegal if you get caught A legal certainty!! When you 'outlaw' hunting, 'outlaws' go hunting! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 They agreed to issue licenses to control raptors,,but none have been issued. expect the same for the proposed cull,, Very unlikely that many who want a license will get one,, and one thing you can be sure off, is that no dogs will be used legally on badger. Expect it to go along the same lines as, "approved contractor" shooting for SNH etc. ATB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moonfall 0 Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 They agreed to issue licenses to control raptors,,but none have been issued. expect the same for the proposed cull,, Very unlikely that many who want a license will get one,, and one thing you can be sure off, is that no dogs will be used legally on badger. Expect it to go along the same lines as, "approved contractor" shooting for SNH etc. ATB I did not know about the legislation concerning raptors. We cannot seem to get anything right, the political ambitions of goverment and the desire to win votes to keep in power, have been the main reason for hunting legislation since the 70's. The rights of an animal put above the rights of a man. We have seen our traditional ways of life, hunting with dogs, my main point, destroyed. It will be interesting to see how this pans out. I think your reasoning about the cull probably not coming into force is well thought out. But their is certainly an overwhelming argument that the badger numbers in Devon at least, need to be cut drastically. A wind of change, enforced by the TB infections in cattle has made them realise something had to be done about the badger. They realise now it was a mistake to protect him under legislation. And that might be the reason that what eventually follows this political bullshit they are spewing out at the moment, could suprise us all. Just my thoughts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,957 Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 You have to be dumb to think that. Shooting them will always be the most efficient and most 'sanitized' method. Cant agree with that mate, no matter what calibre or who's aiming the gun, a badger is not an animal that lends itself to clean shooting. Personaly i dont think this cull will ever get off the ground, theres no one with the balls to make it happen. jmo. what do you mean by, a badger is not an animal that lends itself to clean shooting,i dont understand that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 You have to be dumb to think that. Shooting them will always be the most efficient and most 'sanitized' method. Cant agree with that mate, no matter what calibre or who's aiming the gun, a badger is not an animal that lends itself to clean shooting. Personaly i dont think this cull will ever get off the ground, theres no one with the balls to make it happen. jmo. what do you mean by, a badger is not an animal that lends itself to clean shooting,i dont understand that Then you dont know much about badgers. Theres a very small target area for a clean kill, they are very tough and resilient and chances are they are never more than a stones throw from their sett, making it easy for a wounded animal to get to ground and die a lingering death. jmo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,957 Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 You have to be dumb to think that. Shooting them will always be the most efficient and most 'sanitized' method. Cant agree with that mate, no matter what calibre or who's aiming the gun, a badger is not an animal that lends itself to clean shooting. Personaly i dont think this cull will ever get off the ground, theres no one with the balls to make it happen. jmo. what do you mean by, a badger is not an animal that lends itself to clean shooting,i dont understand that Then you dont know much about badgers. Theres a very small target area for a clean kill, they are very tough and resilient and chances are they are never more than a stones throw from their sett, making it easy for a wounded animal to get to ground and die a lingering death. jmo. i was,nt being funny and no i dont know a lot about badgers except i could show you feilds in north wales that you can walk allmost up to them ,even if you have a dog with you,you can see 4 or 5 in some feilds that you can shine a lamp on and they wont bat an eyelid might look up and then just carry on scrathing around ,they were a real pain in the arse as the lurcher was allways getting hold of them,shooting those badgers would be like shooting fish in a barrel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 I might be misinformed, their has been a lot of varying reports about the proposed badger cull, but I was under the impression it had been passed.It might not be true. But assuming it was, the following points are what the cull will be made up of in these early trials. The two pilot areas for the cull, are probably the two most heavily populated ones, Devon and Gloucester. The farmer would be given the legal right to shoot the badgers in the proposal. Though if the act has been passed, I can envisage 'authorised persons' being designated to do it. A good point to raise Dances. But as to an overall repeal of the hunting with dogs act following this cull, no way. Just my thoughts. No cull has been passed it is just up for consultation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14204236 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dances Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 10 license for the whole country Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jt750 Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 You have to be dumb to think that. Shooting them will always be the most efficient and most 'sanitized' method. Cant agree with that mate, no matter what calibre or who's aiming the gun, a badger is not an animal that lends itself to clean shooting. Personaly i dont think this cull will ever get off the ground, theres no one with the balls to make it happen. jmo. what do you mean by, a badger is not an animal that lends itself to clean shooting,i dont understand that Then you dont know much about badgers. they are never more than a stones throw from their sett. You obviously don't know much about them. They are social /family animals that travel far and wide looking for food. They also have traditional paths which they use all the time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,957 Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) You have to be dumb to think that. Shooting them will always be the most efficient and most 'sanitized' method. Cant agree with that mate, no matter what calibre or who's aiming the gun, a badger is not an animal that lends itself to clean shooting. Personaly i dont think this cull will ever get off the ground, theres no one with the balls to make it happen. jmo. what do you mean by, a badger is not an animal that lends itself to clean shooting,i dont understand that Then you dont know much about badgers. they are never more than a stones throw from their sett. You obviously don't know much about them. They are social /family animals that travel far and wide looking for food. They also have traditional paths which they use all the time thats what i thought, and foxfan you will never learn any thing if you pretend to know everything Edited July 27, 2011 by greg64 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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