lucky 578 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 i've just had my young terrier to the vets this morning because his knackers have'nt dropped yet and he's coming up 17 month old, the vet has recomended that they be removed as they can be cancerous later on if left, i am not keen on castration, but they said i could wait another 6 months but it's unlikely they will drop and could become cancerous in the meantime. this terrier has had a few decent digs to him allready and he's showing all the signs of making a decent little dog, but i've heard a lot of negative stuff about castration and was wondering how much this is going to affect his working ability, drive etc ? and will he stay in shape with regular exercise or will he turn into a barrel ? Quote Link to post
Guest WILF Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 I had a little russell type done Lucky for exactly the same reason mate, they can also pass this condition down to any offspring so its worth getting done. It did not affect his "agression" for want of a better word, one little bit .......if anything, he got more "agressive" JMHO but I dont see why you will get a problem if he seems good at the moment. Hope that puts your mind at rest. Quote Link to post
MAACCY 105 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 I had a little russell type done Lucky for exactly the same reason mate, they can also pass this condition down to any offspring so its worth getting done.It did not affect his "agression" for want of a better word, one little bit .......if anything, he got more "agressive" JMHO but I dont see why you will get a problem if he seems good at the moment. Hope that puts your mind at rest. thats a good post lucky the vet said the same with my bull x pup what i want to know is what is the latest they can drop somebody said to me they can take upto 2 years to drop this cant be right can it cheers kieron Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Well lucky, I have been involved in traing manwork dogs for several years abnd we tend to leave them entire as we have found that the dogs have more drive because of the testosterone. Saying that a friend recently had his six year old dog castrated and this has done nothing to affect his drive. I have seen a few dogs develop fear of fireworks etc after being castrated, perhaps this is something to do with the testosterone levels?????? I would say if he has already started to work thats a definate plus Quote Link to post
TOPPER 1,809 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 i have found over the years castration on dogs stems there drive i had a parsons russel that was just like yours but he fathered afew litters in his time the vet kept on about cancer etc and my missus used to massage his balls and they finalie drop when he was 3 and half and we lost him to ground not long after that. try the massaging ???? Quote Link to post
lucky 578 Posted February 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 the vets dont even seem interested in trying to bring them down or waiting even, all they want to do is castrate him ? the problem is that if i have him castrated and he makes the grade i wont be able to breed anything from him, but i dont want him developing cancer either, if i knew that castration definately wont affect his work then i'd just have it done ? Quote Link to post
Royston2 0 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Lucky mate i honestly know of some proper terriers that have been dug to long after being castrated at a young age i think the bloke has had 3 of his done and believe me they aint bayers not sure on other peoples experiences but i havent known any to fail for that reasons but terriers are a funny thing good luck Quote Link to post
PBurns 9 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 I do not breed dogs and generally spay and neuter my dogs, but I have owned enough intact males in my life that I notice that it's always the female vets that are eager to neuter a male dog "for his health" -- never mind what your intentions for the dog are, or any evidence to support the assertions being made. When the recommendation to castrate a dog is made, I always make it a point to get real close to the vet (a little *too* close, if you know what I mean) and look them right in the eye when I ask: "And have you recommended this procedure to your husband as well?" P Quote Link to post
samba 534 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 LUCKY HAS YOUR PUP GOT ANY DOWN OR ARE THEY BOTH NOT THERE IF ONE IS DOWN JUST TAKE THE ONE OUT THATS FAST IN HIS GROIN Quote Link to post
lucky 578 Posted February 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 LUCKY HAS YOUR PUP GOT ANY DOWN OR ARE THEY BOTH NOT THEREIF ONE IS DOWN JUST TAKE THE ONE OUT THATS FAST IN HIS GROIN none are down Quote Link to post
adam 0 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) i've just had my young terrier to the vets this morning because his knackers have'nt dropped yet and he's coming up 17 month old, the vet has recomended that they be removed as they can be cancerous later on if left, i am not keen on castration, but they said i could wait another 6 months but it's unlikely they will drop and could become cancerous in the meantime.this terrier has had a few decent digs to him allready and he's showing all the signs of making a decent little dog, but i've heard a lot of negative stuff about castration and was wondering how much this is going to affect his working ability, drive etc ? and will he stay in shape with regular exercise or will he turn into a barrel ? lucky i had the same decision to make 10 years ago i took my dog to my local vet and he told me a similar thing. I was told that i would have to have the dog done by 2 1/2 years old. Luckily i moved house before that time and signed up with another vet (luckily this one had his head screwed on right and kept ferrets etc and knew his stuf) and he advised me that just because my dogs balls had not dropped and were still in his stomach he would not necessarily get cancer but i was advised to keep checking the size and shape (by feeling) to make sure that nothing had changed. If it had i would have to do the do. still groping his balls lol and luckily no problems. yis Adam Edited February 23, 2007 by adam Quote Link to post
Guest David! Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 But with the balls held up in the body, the chances of being able to send out shooters that'll make pups, is in question. Too much heat... The other issue is, this is generally a genetic thing - you breed from a dog that holds a nut (or both in your case) up, then you'll get pups the same way. I would leave him go - I think the issue of getting cancer is much over-stated...here in the states, they tell you to spay bitches because if you don't they come down with mammary cancer... Never seen it in my life, but it scares the hell out of folks and they spend the $$ to get it done. I figure they'll atrophy into little useless peas in time, and I would work the dog as he is. Now, if you want to massage away as has been suggested...I guess you could go ahead, but don't be surprised when the dog decides to get amorous with your leg! Quote Link to post
adam 0 Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 david its surprising what you wil do for a good dog Quote Link to post
lucky 578 Posted February 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 this is the young dog after todays dig Quote Link to post
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