shotgunny 39 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 just brought my jack russel back from the vets ans she has the early signs of hip displaysia. How will this effect my dog ? we have medicine to stop it but was just wondering what real effects it has on a dog ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hannah4181 260 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Depends on how badly she has it, i've known dogs to be crippled and PTS because of it, and others to lead a relatively normal life. How old is she? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shotgunny 39 Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 she is four and the vet said its only very early stages of it. myles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hannah4181 260 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 It maybe that it never bothers her till she gets much older. Bio flow collars are excellent and plenty of oily fish in her diet. If you choose to suppliment, IMO this stuff is the best. http://www.viovet.co.uk/p16085/Synoquin_Tasty_Chewable_Tablets_for_Adult_Dogs_Small_Breeds/product_info.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunner123 103 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Running and working the dog will speed up the crippling defect. If its a pet, just go by the rules and keep an eye on the quality of life. Get a second opinion from a recommended vet, vets these days seem to come down with amnesia quite a bit ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,172 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 This link explains it very well: http://www.vetrica.com/care/dog/hipdysplasia.shtml Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dawn B 212 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 How was it diagnosed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scalesntails 118 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 I believe it's genetic so best not breed from her. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Good link by Skycat. The suggestion of magnets by another? There one of my pet hates because they have been tried and found to be an ineffective con, the science suggested as to how they work is gobbledygook, ie they magnetise the red cells and so increase flow, if they magnetised the red cells they would all clump together and bring instant death. Basically in trials with some wearing real magnets, others wearing pretend magnets and some getting nothing those with magnets did no better than those with pretend magnets ie placebo. So if there was some positive unknown to science force at work those with magnets would have had improved benefit over placebo and they don’t. Sorry rant over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scalesntails 118 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Good link by Skycat. The suggestion of magnets by another? There one of my pet hates because they have been tried and found to be an ineffective con, the science suggested as to how they work is gobbledygook, ie they magnetise the red cells and so increase flow, if they magnetised the red cells they would all clump together and bring instant death. Basically in trials with some wearing real magnets, others wearing pretend magnets and some getting nothing those with magnets did no better than those with pretend magnets ie placebo. So if there was some positive unknown to science force at work those with magnets would have had improved benefit over placebo and they don’t. Sorry rant over. I have to agree. The bioflow magnets do work well for many humans because humans know when something is supposed to make them better and placebos do actually help many people. They think something is working so it makes them feel better even though they aren't. This wouldn't work in dogs as they have no concept of medicine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) Good link by Skycat. The suggestion of magnets by another? There one of my pet hates because they have been tried and found to be an ineffective con, the science suggested as to how they work is gobbledygook, ie they magnetise the red cells and so increase flow, if they magnetised the red cells they would all clump together and bring instant death. Basically in trials with some wearing real magnets, others wearing pretend magnets and some getting nothing those with magnets did no better than those with pretend magnets ie placebo. So if there was some positive unknown to science force at work those with magnets would have had improved benefit over placebo and they dont. Sorry rant over. I have to agree. The bioflow magnets do work well for many humans because humans know when something is supposed to make them better and placebos do actually help many people. They think something is working so it makes them feel better even though they aren't. This wouldn't work in dogs as they have no concept of medicine. Tried to pm this but it won’t let me so will post. Against popular thought there is a strong placebo effect with both animals and children as both the subject and carer are effected, ie the owner feels the symptoms are bad and being unable to do anything gives negative thoughts but giving a pill, magic bracelets etc will lead to a more positive view as they have done something and so the symptoms appear reduced in their eyes. Plus there is a direct effect to the subject themselves and Rosenthal et al have done some interesting work in this area - if you tell students they are testing 'maze bright' vs 'maze dull' rats, the 'maze bright' rats will actually finish faster. This may be because the rats respond to being treated differently. ROSENTHAL, R. & FODE, K.L. (1963) The effect of experimenter bias on the performance of the albino rat. Behavioral Science, 8, 183-89 Regards s Edited May 31, 2011 by sandymere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scalesntails 118 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Good link by Skycat. The suggestion of magnets by another? There one of my pet hates because they have been tried and found to be an ineffective con, the science suggested as to how they work is gobbledygook, ie they magnetise the red cells and so increase flow, if they magnetised the red cells they would all clump together and bring instant death. Basically in trials with some wearing real magnets, others wearing pretend magnets and some getting nothing those with magnets did no better than those with pretend magnets ie placebo. So if there was some positive unknown to science force at work those with magnets would have had improved benefit over placebo and they don’t. Sorry rant over. I have to agree. The bioflow magnets do work well for many humans because humans know when something is supposed to make them better and placebos do actually help many people. They think something is working so it makes them feel better even though they aren't. This wouldn't work in dogs as they have no concept of medicine. Tried to pm this but it won’t let me so will post. Against popular thought there is a strong placebo effect with both animals and children as both the subject and carer are effected, ie the owner feels the symptoms are bad and being unable to do anything gives negative thoughts but giving a pill, magic bracelets etc will lead to a more positive view as they have done something and so the symptoms appear reduced in their eyes. Plus there is a direct effect to the subject themselves and Rosenthal et al have done some interesting work in this area - if you tell students they are testing 'maze bright' vs 'maze dull' rats, the 'maze bright' rats will actually finish faster. This may be because the rats respond to being treated differently. ROSENTHAL, R. & FODE, K.L. (1963) The effect of experimenter bias on the performance of the albino rat. Behavioral Science, 8, 183-89 Regards s Makes sense. I have taken on dogs in the past because the owners said they were aggressive to dogs when walking etc. When I took them out they were fine so can only assume they were picking up on their previous owners nerves and reacting how they thought they should. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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