scothunter 12,609 Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) on ch4 watched it before eye opening movie.very controversial and horrific.some would say a war crime even. Edited May 2, 2011 by scothunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 He bombed us we bombed him, it wasn't nice especially the way some of the civilians died, but it's how it goes isn't it mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 He bombed us we bombed him, it wasn't nice especially the way some of the civilians died, but it's how it goes isn't it mate. very true fell.it was just the scale and the amount of civillians.in fact churchill demanded no mention of it in reports of the scale of estimated civillian loss.bomber harris distanced himself from it.anyway guess it was a long time ago now and at the end of the film,they showed a mini documentary of the raf veterans attending the church with survivrs and there were no hard feelings.so many deaths happened in ww11 so many things happened was just how it was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWSBOY 306 Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 it was a war crime, they carpet bombed civilians, and they are guilty of the same shit as we speak Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 They estimate a cpl of hundred thousand died in dresden.however the intense heat which was just crazy turning people into ash that the true number will never be known.it caused a vacum that just sucked people into the fire from the street.the british bombed it during the night and the yanks carried on through the day for 48hrs.but as i said war is never pleasant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWSBOY 306 Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 thats not war mate, its called murder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 thats not war mate, its called murder. isnt war just that,but they call it war cause its easier on the palate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Malt 379 Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 They estimate a cpl of hundred thousand died in dresden.however the intense heat which was just crazy turning people into ash that the true number will never be known.it caused a vacum that just sucked people into the fire from the street.the british bombed it during the night and the yanks carried on through the day for 48hrs.but as i said war is never pleasant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestorm Lets also not forget what they did to us to earn such violent retribution: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blitz War is all about hitting your attackers back harder than they are hitting you, and we were hit very hard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) oh i understand fully malt,you bomb us we bomb you.the v1 and v2s caused devasting destruction and death.i think where the controversy arises with dresden,was the fact it had not been targeted at any point during the war as it was deemed not military relevant.it was your perfect fairy tale city steeped in architecture and the bombing really happened when germany was basically gasping in the last throws of a dying tiger.some would say it was pointless really.my opinion it was just retribution and they wanted germany f****d completely. lol i might sway in favour of some of hitlers policies and agree with some of his visions but at the end of the day im BRITISH and he reaped what he sowed. Edited May 2, 2011 by scothunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 If he had of concentrated on our air fields and military targets rather than the "utter annihilation" of the people, he could of invaded our country successfully. He chose to start playing the game of targeting civilians. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Spot on AFT. Both bombing campaigns were designed to demoralise the general population so that they'd start lobbying the governments to surrender. The problem is both the British and the Germans are proud races of people and such actions only served to galvanise. It's all very well us sat here looking back and saying it was out of order, but you can't judge the past by today's standards. If you'd have asked the people who were suffering losses in the Blitz at the time if they thought it was morally right to hit back as hard as we did, I reckon they'd have only given one answer... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 If he had of concentrated on our air fields and military targets rather than the "utter annihilation" of the people, he could of invaded our country successfully. He chose to start playing the game of targeting civilians. yea thats true mate,as you prob gathered i have read a bit about ww11 and is my fav subject in history.did you know the first bomb that dropped in a populated part of london.that hitler was raging when he heard.berated goering about it.but then turn of events it didnt matter as it just came policy later to bomb indiscrimently anyway.just thought id share that wee fact fell lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,217 Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 It was revenge, pure and simple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 If he had of concentrated on our air fields and military targets rather than the "utter annihilation" of the people, he could of invaded our country successfully. He chose to start playing the game of targeting civilians. yea thats true mate,as you prob gathered i have read a bit about ww11 and is my fav subject in history.did you know the first bomb that dropped in a populated part of london.that hitler was raging when he heard.berated goering about it.but then turn of events it didnt matter as it just came policy later to bomb indiscrimently anyway.just thought id share that wee fact fell lol Cheers pal, maybe the more desperate he got (and mental he went, thanks to syphilis) he started resort to more desperate tactics? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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