Whirrier Breeding?

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

As title suggests, which way around is whirrier breeding usually done?

 

Terrier over a whippet bitch or vice versa?

 

I didn't think a small terrier would physically get on a whippet bitch. But then could a terrier bitch carry pups from a whippet sire?

 

Thanks

 

Gaz

[Chid 6,726]

terrier over whippet ... use a shelf for the terrier to stand on ...

[Rabbiting man 1,192]

Terrier dog over the Whippet bitch I think it the right way round if you put the Whippet dog over the terier bitch you could have the bitch in distress giving birth and that not the right thing for the bitch

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Thanks for replys. I had a feeling that was the way. I didn't think a JRT would be able to carry and deliver pups from a whippet.

 

Thanks.

[skycat 6,174]

The bitch will only grow pups as big as she can carry and give birth to. My whirrier is Whippet dog over Border bitch. OK, there can always be a rare problem case, but in general its OK. There was a case recently, I think I read it on here, can't be sure, where a much larger dog got over a terrier bitch: she had tiny pups which all grew much much bigger and ended up medium lurcher size. Nature has a way of sorting things out. Put it this way: a bitch's uterus can only expand so much: nature wouldn't let the uterus split wide open in an attempt to grow pups too big.

[Rabbiting man 1,192]

If I was going to breed them I put terrier over the Whippet it the safer for her in the long run

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Thanks for replys.

 

It only occurred to me because I have been toying with the idea of having a litter out if my JRT. I have always liked the sound of a whirrier.

 

My bitch is an outstanding busher, has a great nose, prey drive through the roof. Her only downside (for me) is that she goes to ground and is mental if you know what I'm saying.

 

If I could get her attributes in a larger dog that wouldn't fit to ground then I would be very happy indeed. I thought about putting beddy over her but I know beddys can still fit down earths.

 

So I thought maybe putting a small whippet over her and keeping a larger dog pup back may result in a good busher, with nose, prey drive, a bit of pace and hopefully too leggy to fit down holes?

 

Its only an idea and it may never happen but I like getting as much info as possible anyway.

 

Gaz

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Just to add, the JRT in question stands about 10" tts if that.

 

What are the smallest whippets or beddy whippets out there?

 

Gaz

[skycat 6,174]

I know that I said that you could do it this way round, but actually I don't think using a Whippet over such a tiny bitch would be a good idea. Ten inches to the shoulder I take it you mean? That is really small! Is this because she is the short legged variety? Is her body large with short legs or is she just teeny weeny full stop?

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

She is short legged and stocky.

 

These pics might give you an idea...

 

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/196399-this-mornings-walk/

 

She is about 10" to the shoulder yeh.

 

I trust whatever advice you offer skycat.

 

Gaz

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Ive just measured her and she is band on 10" tts.

 

Has anyone any experience with JRT x Cocker Spaniel?

 

I've heard they make good bushers but might the tendency to go to ground still be there?

 

Gaz

[baldockbanks courser 598]

there are quite anoth mongrals about already, put a bushing russel dog over your bushing russel bitch if thats the sport you like.

 

whirrers are perfect if you want a dog thats to small for lurcher work and to big for terreir work.

 

I see that "brin" that the "warrener" has on hes videos work loads of times in person when w.j owned him and hes sister. he was a fair dog on all game bar big deer, but I still think most are novelties that will get shown up every time by a 22 - 25 inch lurcher

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

I am after a busher yes. But putting a bushing russel dog over my bitch would just give me another dog that will end up going to ground. This is what I'm trying to get away from.

 

Mongrels are not a bad thing mate. Lurchers are mongrels at the end of the day.

 

If putting cocker blood into my russel will give me what I'm after then i will happily call it a mongrel.

 

Gaz

[Chid 6,726]

why not just get a full cocker or springer and not breed from your bitch????? or buy one from a litter already been bred to many litters getting bred when there isnt a need for them to be

[baldockbanks courser 598]

I am after a busher yes. But putting a bushing russel dog over my bitch would just give me another dog that will end up going to ground. This is what I'm trying to get away from.

 

Mongrels are not a bad thing mate. Lurchers are mongrels at the end of the day.

 

If putting cocker blood into my russel will give me what I'm after then i will happily call it a mongrel.

 

Gaz

You are wright in a way that a lurcher is a mongral yes, to me if a lurcher is breed in such a way that you struggle to see its a running dog it crosses over to being an out and out mongral a lurcher only in its distant heritage. at the end of the day I could take say a collie x lab x german shepard x lurcher out of an animal shelter and work it like a lurcher, it would be too slow in a strait line but would most liklie catch rabbits when bushing or ferreting. but to me that would no longer be a lurcher lacking a running dogs shape and pace.

 

if you dont want a dog that will go to ground why not just buy a cocker pup and use that to bush they have been breed to flush and if you let them will catch rabbits.

 

you dont have to use a dog for breeding just because you own it, if you dont like its traits dont try to breed them out, buy something developed for the job.